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The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal [[diesis]] or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10_9|10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal [[diesis]] or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10_9|10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3\22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.


valid range: [150.000, 171.429] (8 to 7)
valid range: [150.000, 171.429] (8 to 7)
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=Hedgehog=  
=Hedgehog=  
Hedgehog, with wedgie &lt;&lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.
Hedgehog, with wedgie &lt;&lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &lt;[[tel:146 232 338|146 232 338]] 411| val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.


Commas: 50/49, 245/243
Commas: 50/49, 245/243
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The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis"&gt;diesis&lt;/a&gt; or porcupine comma. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |1 -5 3&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; is a minor whole tone, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9"&gt;10/9&lt;/a&gt; interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis"&gt;diesis&lt;/a&gt; or porcupine comma. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |1 -5 3&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; is a minor whole tone, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9"&gt;10/9&lt;/a&gt; interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3\22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [150.000, 171.429] (8 to 7)&lt;br /&gt;
valid range: [150.000, 171.429] (8 to 7)&lt;br /&gt;
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  Hedgehog, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &amp;lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.&lt;br /&gt;
  Hedgehog, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &amp;lt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://tel.wikispaces.com/146%20232%20338"&gt;146 232 338&lt;/a&gt; 411| val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 50/49, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;