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The 11/9 interval, usually considered a "neutral third", is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 "minor third". This means that the 27/20 "wolf fifth" of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to 11/8 (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone).
The 11/9 interval, usually considered a "neutral third", is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 "minor third". This means that the 27/20 "wolf fifth" of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to 11/8 (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone).
The characteristic small interval of porcupine, which is 60.75 cents in this tuning but can range from &lt;50 to 80 cents in general, represents both 25/24 and 81/80.
The characteristic small interval of porcupine, which is 60.75 cents in this tuning but can range from &lt;50 to 80 cents in general, represents both 25/24 and 81/80.
 
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==History==  
==History==  
&lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by [[Dave Keenan]], but didn't have a name until [[Herman Miller]] mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15-tET had a section where it "pumps" the 250:243 "comma." Although this music did not use a Porcupine MOS or MODMOS (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of DE scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15, 22 was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by [[Dave Keenan]], but didn't have a name until [[Herman Miller]] mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15-tET had a section where it "pumps" the 250:243 "comma." Although this music did not use a Porcupine MOS or MODMOS (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of DE scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15, 22 was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself.&lt;/span&gt;
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* "[[http://www.archive.org/download/NightOnPorcupineMountain/Genewardsmithmussorgsky-NightOnPorcupineMountain.mp3|Night on Porcupine Mountain]]", Gene Ward Smith and Modest Mussorgsky, [[22edo]].
* "[[http://www.archive.org/download/NightOnPorcupineMountain/Genewardsmithmussorgsky-NightOnPorcupineMountain.mp3|Night on Porcupine Mountain]]", Gene Ward Smith and Modest Mussorgsky, [[22edo]].
* "[[http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8839060|being a]]", Andrew Heathwaite, 2010, 22edo, mode 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 of Porcupine[8].
* "[[http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8839060|being a]]", Andrew Heathwaite, 2010, 22edo, mode 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 of Porcupine[8].
* [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3|Playing Gently with Miller's Porcupine]], [[Chris Vaisvil]]
* [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3|15 Porcupines in India]], Sarangi, Tambura and Sitar improvisation by [[Chris Vaisvil]]
* [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3|15 Quills]] piano solo by Chris Vaisvil
* [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3|Prickly Side of Love]] - rock band in Porcupine Temperament with vocals by Chris Vaisvil
==Images==  
==Images==  
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The basic 5-limit harmonic structure of porcupine can be understood simply by noting that tempering out 250/243 makes (4/3)^2 equivalent to (6/5)^3. In perhaps more familiar musical terms, this means two &amp;quot;perfect fourths&amp;quot; equals three &amp;quot;minor thirds&amp;quot;. As a consequence of this, 4/3 is divided into 3 equal parts, and 6/5 is divided into 2 of those same equal parts. This is obviously in stark contrast to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, and to meantone in which neither 4/3 nor 6/5 can be divided into any number of equal parts. The &amp;quot;equal tetrachord&amp;quot; formed by dividing 4/3 into 3 equal parts is a characteristic feature of many porcupine scales.&lt;br /&gt;
The basic 5-limit harmonic structure of porcupine can be understood simply by noting that tempering out 250/243 makes (4/3)^2 equivalent to (6/5)^3. In perhaps more familiar musical terms, this means two &amp;quot;perfect fourths&amp;quot; equals three &amp;quot;minor thirds&amp;quot;. As a consequence of this, 4/3 is divided into 3 equal parts, and 6/5 is divided into 2 of those same equal parts. This is obviously in stark contrast to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, and to meantone in which neither 4/3 nor 6/5 can be divided into any number of equal parts. The &amp;quot;equal tetrachord&amp;quot; formed by dividing 4/3 into 3 equal parts is a characteristic feature of many porcupine scales.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 11/9 interval, usually considered a &amp;quot;neutral third&amp;quot;, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 &amp;quot;minor third&amp;quot;. This means that the 27/20 &amp;quot;wolf fifth&amp;quot; of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to 11/8 (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone).&lt;br /&gt;
The 11/9 interval, usually considered a &amp;quot;neutral third&amp;quot;, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 &amp;quot;minor third&amp;quot;. This means that the 27/20 &amp;quot;wolf fifth&amp;quot; of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to 11/8 (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone).&lt;br /&gt;
The characteristic small interval of porcupine, which is 60.75 cents in this tuning but can range from &amp;lt;50 to 80 cents in general, represents both 25/24 and 81/80.&lt;br /&gt;
The characteristic small interval of porcupine, which is 60.75 cents in this tuning but can range from &amp;lt;50 to 80 cents in general, represents both 25/24 and 81/80.&lt;br /&gt;
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  &lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Dave%20Keenan"&gt;Dave Keenan&lt;/a&gt;, but didn't have a name until &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Herman%20Miller"&gt;Herman Miller&lt;/a&gt; mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15-tET had a section where it &amp;quot;pumps&amp;quot; the 250:243 &amp;quot;comma.&amp;quot; Although this music did not use a Porcupine MOS or MODMOS (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of DE scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15, 22 was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;Porcupine temperament/scales were discovered by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Dave%20Keenan"&gt;Dave Keenan&lt;/a&gt;, but didn't have a name until &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Herman%20Miller"&gt;Herman Miller&lt;/a&gt; mentioned that his Mizarian Porcupine Overture in 15-tET had a section where it &amp;quot;pumps&amp;quot; the 250:243 &amp;quot;comma.&amp;quot; Although this music did not use a Porcupine MOS or MODMOS (which would have 7 or 8 notes), the name was adopted for such scales as well, once the essentially one-to-one relationship between vanishing commas and sequences of DE scales was fully evident. It was clear that even though Herman's piece was in 15, 22 was a porcupine tuning par excellence, and that was an interesting development in itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/home#TOC-Mizarian-music" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mizarian Porcupine Overture&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Herman Miller, 1999. (15edo, namesake of the temperament)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.myspace.com/paulerlich/music/songs/glassic-in-22-tone-equal-temperament-45202095" rel="nofollow"&gt;Glassic&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Paul Erlich, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; (at least the beginning part is in porcupine).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/download/NightOnPorcupineMountain/Genewardsmithmussorgsky-NightOnPorcupineMountain.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Night on Porcupine Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Gene Ward Smith and Modest Mussorgsky, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8839060" rel="nofollow"&gt;being a&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Andrew Heathwaite, 2010, 22edo, mode 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 of Porcupine[8].&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Images"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt;Images&lt;/h2&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/home#TOC-Mizarian-music" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mizarian Porcupine Overture&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Herman Miller, 1999. (15edo, namesake of the temperament)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.myspace.com/paulerlich/music/songs/glassic-in-22-tone-equal-temperament-45202095" rel="nofollow"&gt;Glassic&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Paul Erlich, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; (at least the beginning part is in porcupine).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/download/NightOnPorcupineMountain/Genewardsmithmussorgsky-NightOnPorcupineMountain.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Night on Porcupine Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Gene Ward Smith and Modest Mussorgsky, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8839060" rel="nofollow"&gt;being a&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Andrew Heathwaite, 2010, 22edo, mode 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 of Porcupine[8].&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Playing Gently with Miller's Porcupine&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil"&gt;Chris Vaisvil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;15 Porcupines in India&lt;/a&gt;, Sarangi, Tambura and Sitar improvisation by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil"&gt;Chris Vaisvil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;15 Quills&lt;/a&gt; piano solo by Chris Vaisvil&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Prickly Side of Love&lt;/a&gt; - rock band in Porcupine Temperament with vocals by Chris Vaisvil&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:7:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Images"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:7 --&gt;Images&lt;/h2&gt;
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