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When is learning a microtonal system of pitches //harder// than learning the 12-equal system? When is it //easier//?
When is learning a microtonal system of pitches //harder// than learning the 12-equal system? When is it //easier//?
//Answered in [[PedagogyTradeoffs]]//


When does experience in 12 //help// in learning non-12? When does it //hinder//?
When does experience in 12 //help// in learning non-12? When does it //hinder//?
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* Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI
* Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI
* Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound
* Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound
* Partch, Genesis of a Music
* Partch, Genesis of a Music</pre></div>
 
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Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. If you would like to answer them, please put it on a separate page and link to it here.

What considerations does the particular question of a //microtonal// pedagogy warrant?

What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?

When is learning a microtonal system of pitches //harder// than learning the 12-equal system? When is it //easier//?

//Answered in [[PedagogyTradeoffs]]//

When does experience in 12 //help// in learning non-12? When does it //hinder//?

When does experience in non-12 //help// in learning 12? When does //it// hinder?

To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?

A related question: in whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?

Microtonal method books / teaching tools / resources
* Neil Haverstick books
* Joe Maneri 72-tone book
* Brian McLaren Introduction to Microtonality CD, DVDs
* W.A. Mathieu: The Harmonic Experience
* David Doty: Just Intonation Primer
* any [[http://sonic-arts.org/darreg/contents.htm|Ivor Darreg]] in particular?
* Jacob Barton [[ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp]], such nonexistent new musical interfaces as the String Playground
* Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI
* Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound
* Partch, Genesis of a Music

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<html><head><title>Pedagogy</title></head><body>Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. If you would like to answer them, please put it on a separate page and link to it here.<br />
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What considerations does the particular question of a <em>microtonal</em> pedagogy warrant?<br />
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What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?<br />
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When is learning a microtonal system of pitches <em>harder</em> than learning the 12-equal system? When is it <em>easier</em>?<br />
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<em>Answered in <a class="wiki_link" href="/PedagogyTradeoffs">PedagogyTradeoffs</a></em><br />
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When does experience in 12 <em>help</em> in learning non-12? When does it <em>hinder</em>?<br />
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When does experience in non-12 <em>help</em> in learning 12? When does <em>it</em> hinder?<br />
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To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?<br />
<br />
A related question: in whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?<br />
<br />
Microtonal method books / teaching tools / resources<br />
<ul><li>Neil Haverstick books</li><li>Joe Maneri 72-tone book</li><li>Brian McLaren Introduction to Microtonality CD, DVDs</li><li>W.A. Mathieu: The Harmonic Experience</li><li>David Doty: Just Intonation Primer</li><li>any <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sonic-arts.org/darreg/contents.htm" rel="nofollow">Ivor Darreg</a> in particular?</li><li>Jacob Barton <a class="wiki_link" href="/ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp">ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp</a>, such nonexistent new musical interfaces as the String Playground</li><li>Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI</li><li>Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound</li><li>Partch, Genesis of a Music</li></ul></body></html>