Magic family: Difference between revisions

Wikispaces>genewardsmith
**Imported revision 396378808 - Original comment: **
Wikispaces>x31eq
**Imported revision 401588902 - Original comment: **
Line 1: Line 1:
<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>
<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>
This is an imported revision from Wikispaces. The revision metadata is included below for reference:<br>
This is an imported revision from Wikispaces. The revision metadata is included below for reference:<br>
: This revision was by author [[User:genewardsmith|genewardsmith]] and made on <tt>2013-01-07 11:35:10 UTC</tt>.<br>
: This revision was by author [[User:x31eq|x31eq]] and made on <tt>2013-01-26 06:54:49 UTC</tt>.<br>
: The original revision id was <tt>396378808</tt>.<br>
: The original revision id was <tt>401588902</tt>.<br>
: The revision comment was: <tt></tt><br>
: The revision comment was: <tt></tt><br>
The revision contents are below, presented both in the original Wikispaces Wikitext format, and in HTML exactly as Wikispaces rendered it.<br>
The revision contents are below, presented both in the original Wikispaces Wikitext format, and in HTML exactly as Wikispaces rendered it.<br>
<h4>Original Wikitext content:</h4>
<h4>Original Wikitext content:</h4>
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc]]
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc]]
A magic temperament is optimal, for some searches, in the 9-limit.  It has slightly higher complexity than meantone and is also closer to just intonation.  It is the simplest rank 2 temperament that tunes every 9-limit interval better than is possible in [[12edo]].  Properties may depend on tuning and extension.
=Five limit magic=  
=Five limit magic=  
The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the optimal patent val generator, also makes a lot of sense and using [[19edo]] or [[22edo]] is always possible.
The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the optimal patent val generator, also makes a lot of sense and using [[19edo]] or [[22edo]] is always possible.
Line 166: Line 169:
Badness: 0.0562
Badness: 0.0562


==11-limit==
==11-limit==  
Commas: 45/44, 126/125, 385/384
Commas: 45/44, 126/125, 385/384


Line 175: Line 178:
Badness: 0.0480
Badness: 0.0480


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 45/44, 65/64, 78/77, 126/125
Commas: 45/44, 65/64, 78/77, 126/125


Line 380: Line 383:
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:104 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:105: --&gt;&lt;div style="margin-left: 2em;"&gt;&lt;a href="#Quadrimage-13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:104 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:105: --&gt;&lt;div style="margin-left: 2em;"&gt;&lt;a href="#Quadrimage-13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:105 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:106: --&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:105 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:106: --&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:106 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="Five limit magic"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;Five limit magic&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:106 --&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A magic temperament is optimal, for some searches, in the 9-limit.  It has slightly higher complexity than meantone and is also closer to just intonation.  It is the simplest rank 2 temperament that tunes every 9-limit interval better than is possible in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;.  Properties may depend on tuning and extension.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="Five limit magic"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;Five limit magic&lt;/h1&gt;
  The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the optimal patent val generator, also makes a lot of sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; is always possible.&lt;br /&gt;
  The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the optimal patent val generator, also makes a lot of sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; is always possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Line 540: Line 546:
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:32:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc16"&gt;&lt;a name="Muggles-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:32 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:32:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc16"&gt;&lt;a name="Muggles-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:32 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 45/44, 126/125, 385/384&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 45/44, 126/125, 385/384&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~5/4 = 377.724&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~5/4 = 377.724&lt;br /&gt;
Line 549: Line 555:
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:34:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc17"&gt;&lt;a name="Muggles-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:34 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:34:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc17"&gt;&lt;a name="Muggles-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:34 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 45/44, 65/64, 78/77, 126/125&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 45/44, 65/64, 78/77, 126/125&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~5/4 = 377.724&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~5/4 = 377.724&lt;br /&gt;