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Magic, with its accurate fifths, works well with 9-limit harmony. It's more accurate than [[Meantone family|meantone]] and simpler than [[Garibaldi temperament|garibaldi]]. It's a little tricky to work with because in it fifths are a relatively complex interval and it doesn't naturally work with scales of around seven notes to the octave. Its wedgie is &lt;&lt;5 1 12 -10 5 25||.
Magic, with its accurate fifths, works well with 9-limit harmony. It's more accurate than [[Meantone family|meantone]] and simpler than [[Garibaldi temperament|garibaldi]]. It's a little tricky to work with because in it fifths are a relatively complex interval and it doesn't naturally work with scales of around seven notes to the octave. Its wedgie is &lt;&lt;5 1 12 -10 5 25||.


225/224 is the [[Marvel+temperaments|marvel]] comma. Because the augmented triad is the simplest triad in magic temperaments, it is especially significant in magic temperament.
225/224 is the [[Marvel temperaments|marvel]] comma. Because the augmented triad is the simplest triad in magic temperaments, it is especially significant in magic temperament.


243/242 leads to another essentially tempered 9-limit triad with two thirds approximating 9/7 and the other 6/5.  (This "octarod comma" is shared with [[Sensi|sensi]], [[Semaphore and Godzilla|godzilla]], [[Superpyth|superpyth]], [[Tetracot family|octacot]], [[Gamelismic clan|rodan]], [[Shrutar|shrutar]], [[Porcupine family|hedgehog]], [[Clyde node|clyde]], and [[Sensamagic clan|bohpier]]. See [[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?uvs=245:243|temperament finder]].)  
243/242 leads to another essentially tempered 9-limit triad with two thirds approximating 9/7 and the other 6/5.  It also divides the approximate 3/2 into two steps of 7/6 and one of 10/9. (This "octarod comma" is shared with [[Sensi|sensi]], [[Semaphore and Godzilla|godzilla]], [[Superpyth|superpyth]], [[Tetracot family|octacot]], [[Gamelismic clan|rodan]], [[Shrutar|shrutar]], [[Porcupine family|hedgehog]], [[Clyde node|clyde]], and [[Sensamagic clan|bohpier]]. See [[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?uvs=245:243|temperament finder]].)


By adding 100/99 to the list of commas, magic can be extended to an 11-limit version, &lt;&lt;5 1 12 -8 ... ||. For this, [[104edo]] provides an excellent tuning, as it does also for the rank three temperaments tempering out 100/99 with 225/224, 245/243 or 875/864. Septimage (see below) is also an excellent 11-limit magic tuning.
By adding 100/99 to the list of commas, magic can be extended to an 11-limit version, &lt;&lt;5 1 12 -8 ... ||. For this, [[104edo]] provides an excellent tuning, as it does also for the rank three temperaments tempering out 100/99 with 225/224, 245/243 or 875/864. Septimage (see below) is also an excellent 11-limit magic tuning.
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EDOs: 41, 142cd, 183cd, 224cd
EDOs: 41, 142cd, 183cd, 224cd


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
 
Tempering 100/99 allows for a tritone substitution where the extended 5-limit tuning of a dominant seventh with a 9/5 above the root shares its tritone with an 8:10:11:12:16 chord rooted on the seventh of the original chord.  (The tritone of the dominant seventh is (9/5)/(5/4)=36/25.  (16/11)/(26/25)=100/99.)
 
See also [[Chords of magic]]
 
Commas: 225/224, 245/243, 100/99
Commas: 225/224, 245/243, 100/99


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Magic, with its accurate fifths, works well with 9-limit harmony. It's more accurate than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone%20family"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; and simpler than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Garibaldi%20temperament"&gt;garibaldi&lt;/a&gt;. It's a little tricky to work with because in it fifths are a relatively complex interval and it doesn't naturally work with scales of around seven notes to the octave. Its wedgie is &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 12 -10 5 25||.&lt;br /&gt;
Magic, with its accurate fifths, works well with 9-limit harmony. It's more accurate than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone%20family"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; and simpler than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Garibaldi%20temperament"&gt;garibaldi&lt;/a&gt;. It's a little tricky to work with because in it fifths are a relatively complex interval and it doesn't naturally work with scales of around seven notes to the octave. Its wedgie is &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 12 -10 5 25||.&lt;br /&gt;
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225/224 is the [[Marvel+temperaments|marvel]] comma. Because the augmented triad is the simplest triad in magic temperaments, it is especially significant in magic temperament.&lt;br /&gt;
225/224 is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Marvel%20temperaments"&gt;marvel&lt;/a&gt; comma. Because the augmented triad is the simplest triad in magic temperaments, it is especially significant in magic temperament.&lt;br /&gt;
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243/242 leads to another essentially tempered 9-limit triad with two thirds approximating 9/7 and the other 6/5.  (This &amp;quot;octarod comma&amp;quot; is shared with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensi"&gt;sensi&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Semaphore%20and%20Godzilla"&gt;godzilla&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Superpyth"&gt;superpyth&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Tetracot%20family"&gt;octacot&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gamelismic%20clan"&gt;rodan&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Shrutar"&gt;shrutar&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family"&gt;hedgehog&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Clyde%20node"&gt;clyde&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensamagic%20clan"&gt;bohpier&lt;/a&gt;. See &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?uvs=245:243" rel="nofollow"&gt;temperament finder&lt;/a&gt;.) &lt;br /&gt;
243/242 leads to another essentially tempered 9-limit triad with two thirds approximating 9/7 and the other 6/5.  It also divides the approximate 3/2 into two steps of 7/6 and one of 10/9. (This &amp;quot;octarod comma&amp;quot; is shared with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensi"&gt;sensi&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Semaphore%20and%20Godzilla"&gt;godzilla&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Superpyth"&gt;superpyth&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Tetracot%20family"&gt;octacot&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gamelismic%20clan"&gt;rodan&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Shrutar"&gt;shrutar&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family"&gt;hedgehog&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Clyde%20node"&gt;clyde&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensamagic%20clan"&gt;bohpier&lt;/a&gt;. See &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?uvs=245:243" rel="nofollow"&gt;temperament finder&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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By adding 100/99 to the list of commas, magic can be extended to an 11-limit version, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 12 -8 ... ||. For this, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/104edo"&gt;104edo&lt;/a&gt; provides an excellent tuning, as it does also for the rank three temperaments tempering out 100/99 with 225/224, 245/243 or 875/864. Septimage (see below) is also an excellent 11-limit magic tuning.&lt;br /&gt;
By adding 100/99 to the list of commas, magic can be extended to an 11-limit version, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 12 -8 ... ||. For this, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/104edo"&gt;104edo&lt;/a&gt; provides an excellent tuning, as it does also for the rank three temperaments tempering out 100/99 with 225/224, 245/243 or 875/864. Septimage (see below) is also an excellent 11-limit magic tuning.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 225/224, 245/243, 100/99&lt;br /&gt;
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Tempering 100/99 allows for a tritone substitution where the extended 5-limit tuning of a dominant seventh with a 9/5 above the root shares its tritone with an 8:10:11:12:16 chord rooted on the seventh of the original chord. (The tritone of the dominant seventh is (9/5)/(5/4)=36/25.  (16/11)/(26/25)=100/99.)&lt;br /&gt;
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See also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chords%20of%20magic"&gt;Chords of magic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 245/243, 100/99&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 380.696&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 380.696&lt;br /&gt;