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==Scales==
[[sqrtphi17]]


==Music==
==Music==
[[http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmicro.soonlabel.com%2Fsqrt_phi%2Fdaily20111123a-sqrt-phi-17.mp3&amp;h=nAQHnhy1hAQGVMAVjTXfyUlmvUHZQ1fvxDGsx2IIg9xdZYQ|Prelude for Piano in Square root of Phi Tuning]] by [[Chris Vaisvil]]</pre></div>
[[http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmicro.soonlabel.com%2Fsqrt_phi%2Fdaily20111123a-sqrt-phi-17.mp3&amp;h=nAQHnhy1hAQGVMAVjTXfyUlmvUHZQ1fvxDGsx2IIg9xdZYQ|Prelude for Piano in Square root of Phi Tuning]] by [[Chris Vaisvil]]</pre></div>
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The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;kleismic family&lt;/strong&gt; is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. This 5-limit temperament is commonly called &lt;strong&gt;Hanson&lt;/strong&gt;, and 14\53 is about perfect as a hanson generator, though 9\34 also makes sense and 5\19 is possible. Other tunings include &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo"&gt;140edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;kleismic family&lt;/strong&gt; is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. This 5-limit temperament is commonly called &lt;strong&gt;Hanson&lt;/strong&gt;, and 14\53 is about perfect as a hanson generator, though 9\34 also makes sense and 5\19 is possible. Other tunings include &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo"&gt;140edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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