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Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.
Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.


== Construction ==
==Construction==  
If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:
If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:
1, 1 -&gt; [[7edo]]
1, 1 -&gt; [[7edo]]
1, 2 -&gt; [[12edo]]
1, 2 -&gt; [[12edo]]
2, 3 -&gt; [[19edo]]
2, 3 -&gt; [[19edo]]
3, 5 -&gt; [[31edo]]
3, 5 -&gt; [[31edo]]
5, 8 -&gt; [[50edo]]
5, 8 -&gt; [[50edo]]
8, 13 -&gt; [[81edo]]
8, 13 -&gt; [[81edo]]
13, 21 -&gt; [[131edo]]
13, 21 -&gt; [[131edo]]


== Evaluation ==
==Evaluation==  


Graham Breed [[http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm|writes]]: //I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.//
Graham Breed [[http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm|writes]]: //I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.//


== Listening ==
==Listening==  


[[http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid|An acoustic experience]] - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the [[Warped canon]] collection.</pre></div>
[[http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid|An acoustic experience]] - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the [[Warped canon]] collection.
 
 
==Additional reading==
 
[[@http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/g/golden.aspx|Golden meantone - Tonalsoft encyclopedia]]</pre></div>
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Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.&lt;br /&gt;
Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:&lt;br /&gt;
If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:&lt;br /&gt;
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5, 8 -&amp;gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/50edo"&gt;50edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
8, 13 -&amp;gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81edo"&gt;81edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
8, 13 -&amp;gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81edo"&gt;81edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13, 21 -&amp;gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/131edo"&gt;131edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13, 21 -&amp;gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/131edo"&gt;131edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Graham Breed &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Graham Breed &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid" rel="nofollow"&gt;An acoustic experience&lt;/a&gt; - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Warped%20canon"&gt;Warped canon&lt;/a&gt; collection.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid" rel="nofollow"&gt;An acoustic experience&lt;/a&gt; - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Warped%20canon"&gt;Warped canon&lt;/a&gt; collection.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/g/golden.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Golden meantone - Tonalsoft encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>