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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: [[wikifuture]]. Discuss as needed.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: [[wikifuture]]. Discuss as needed.


=A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets=
=A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets=  


===A disclaimer===
===A disclaimer===  


Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing //something//. From [[http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm|Paolo Friere]] (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), //mere// action is just as undesirable as //mere// words.
Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing //something//. From [[http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm|Paolo Friere]] (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), //mere// action is just as undesirable as //mere// words.


===A word of advice===
===A word of advice===  


Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.
Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.


==Active discussion lists==
==Active discussion lists==  


[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/|Yahoo tuning list]] - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the [[tuning regulars|"regulars"]].
[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/|Yahoo tuning list]] - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the [[tuning regulars|"regulars"]].


[[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/|Yahoo tuning-math list]] - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of [[contemporary temperament theory]] was developed by people here.
[[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/|Yahoo tuning-math list]] - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of [[contemporary temperament theory]] was developed by people here.


[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list]] - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.
[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list]] - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.


[[http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/|nonoctave forum]] - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.</pre></div>
[[http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/|nonoctave forum]] - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.
 
 
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Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt;. From &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Paolo Friere&lt;/a&gt; (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), &lt;em&gt;mere&lt;/em&gt; action is just as undesirable as &lt;em&gt;mere&lt;/em&gt; words.&lt;br /&gt;
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Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning list&lt;/a&gt; - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20regulars"&gt;&amp;quot;regulars&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning-math list&lt;/a&gt; - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/contemporary%20temperament%20theory"&gt;contemporary temperament theory&lt;/a&gt; was developed by people here.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning list&lt;/a&gt; - the oldest mailing list about tuning.  If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers.  A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20regulars"&gt;&amp;quot;regulars&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list&lt;/a&gt; - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning-math list&lt;/a&gt; - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy.  Much of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/contemporary%20temperament%20theory"&gt;contemporary temperament theory&lt;/a&gt; was developed by people here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/" rel="nofollow"&gt;nonoctave forum&lt;/a&gt; - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list&lt;/a&gt; - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music!  The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: [[wikifuture]]. Discuss as needed.

=A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets= 

===A disclaimer=== 

Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing //something//. From [[http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm|Paolo Friere]] (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), //mere// action is just as undesirable as //mere// words.

===A word of advice=== 

Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.

==Active discussion lists== 

[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/|Yahoo tuning list]] - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the [[tuning regulars|"regulars"]].

[[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/|Yahoo tuning-math list]] - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of [[contemporary temperament theory]] was developed by people here.

[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list]] - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.

[[http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/|nonoctave forum]] - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.


[[image:http://notonlymusic.com/board/download/file.php?id=336&t=1]]

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Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing <em>something</em>. From <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm" rel="nofollow">Paolo Friere</a> (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), <em>mere</em> action is just as undesirable as <em>mere</em> words.<br />
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Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.<br />
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo tuning list</a> - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the <a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20regulars">&quot;regulars&quot;</a>.<br />
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo tuning-math list</a> - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of <a class="wiki_link" href="/contemporary%20temperament%20theory">contemporary temperament theory</a> was developed by people here.<br />
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list</a> - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.<br />
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">nonoctave forum</a> - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.<br />
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