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'''513/512''', the '''undevicesimal comma''', '''undevicesimal schisma''' or '''Boethius' comma''', is an [[Unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[19-limit]] (also 2.3.19 [[subgroup]]) comma. It is the amount by which [[19/16]] exceeds the [[32/27|Pythagorean minor third (32/27)]]. It is significant in [[Functional Just System]] and [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.
'''513/512''', the '''undevicesimal comma''', '''undevicesimal schisma''' or '''Boethius' comma''', is an [[Unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[19-limit]] (also 2.3.19 [[subgroup]]) comma. It is the amount by which [[19/16]] exceeds the [[32/27|Pythagorean minor third (32/27)]].  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
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By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the '''boethius temperament''', or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the '''boethian temperament'''. Both enables the [[boethius chords]].  
By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the '''boethius temperament''', or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the '''boethian temperament'''. Both enables the [[boethius chords]].  


== Sagittal notation ==
== Notation ==
This comma is significant in [[Functional Just System]] and [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.
 
=== Sagittal notation ===
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | )| }} and is called the '''19 schisma''', or '''19s''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 19/1 (equiv 19/16), as for example in D-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | )| }}. The downward version is called '''1/19s''' or '''19s down''' and is represented by {{sagittal| )! }}.
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | )| }} and is called the '''19 schisma''', or '''19s''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 19/1 (equiv 19/16), as for example in D-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | )| }}. The downward version is called '''1/19s''' or '''19s down''' and is represented by {{sagittal| )! }}.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]


[[Category:Boethius]]
[[Category:Boethius]]

Revision as of 08:06, 20 October 2024

Interval information
Ratio 513/512
Subgroup monzo 2.3.19 [-9 3 1
Size in cents 3.378019¢
Names undevicesimal comma,
undevicesimal schisma,
Boethius' comma
Color name L19o1, lano 1sn,
Lano comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P1}^{19} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 18.0028
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 18.0056
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 46
Comma size unnoticeable
Open this interval in xen-calc

513/512, the undevicesimal comma, undevicesimal schisma or Boethius' comma, is an unnoticeable 19-limit (also 2.3.19 subgroup) comma. It is the amount by which 19/16 exceeds the Pythagorean minor third (32/27).

Temperaments

"Boethius" redirects here. For the medieval Roman platonist, see Wikipedia: Boethius.

By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the boethius temperament, or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the boethian temperament. Both enables the boethius chords.

Notation

This comma is significant in Functional Just System and Helmholtz-Ellis notation as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal and is called the 19 schisma, or 19s for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 19/1 (equiv 19/16), as for example in D-F⁠ ⁠. The downward version is called 1/19s or 19s down and is represented by .

See also