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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">//Fudging//, or virtual tempering, is the use of one [[just intonation]] interval to approximate another. Below are listed fudging intervals ("fudgers") which are all ratios between two 15-limit [[tonality diamond]] intervals (listed in the fifth column) which come within a comma of less than eight cents (listed in the fourth column) of a 15-limit tonality diamond interval (listed in the third column). If the comma is less than 1, the fudger is flat of the interval it approximates; if greater than 1, sharp of it.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">//Fudging//, or virtual tempering, is the use of one [[just intonation]] interval to approximate another. Below are listed fudging intervals ("fudgers") which are all ratios between two 15-limit [[tonality diamond]] intervals (listed in the fifth column) which come within a comma of less than eight cents (listed in the fourth column) of a 15-limit tonality diamond interval (listed in the third column). If the comma is less than 1, the fudger is flat of the interval it approximates; if greater than 1, sharp of it.


A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p&lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of [[13_10|13/10]], and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony "for free", so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.
A limit-raising fudger is a p prime limit interval which approximates to a q prime limit consonance, with p&lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of [[13_10|13/10]], and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony "for free", so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.


By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.
By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Fudging&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fudging&lt;/em&gt;, or virtual tempering, is the use of one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/just%20intonation"&gt;just intonation&lt;/a&gt; interval to approximate another. Below are listed fudging intervals (&amp;quot;fudgers&amp;quot;) which are all ratios between two 15-limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tonality%20diamond"&gt;tonality diamond&lt;/a&gt; intervals (listed in the fifth column) which come within a comma of less than eight cents (listed in the fourth column) of a 15-limit tonality diamond interval (listed in the third column). If the comma is less than 1, the fudger is flat of the interval it approximates; if greater than 1, sharp of it.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Fudging&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fudging&lt;/em&gt;, or virtual tempering, is the use of one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/just%20intonation"&gt;just intonation&lt;/a&gt; interval to approximate another. Below are listed fudging intervals (&amp;quot;fudgers&amp;quot;) which are all ratios between two 15-limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tonality%20diamond"&gt;tonality diamond&lt;/a&gt; intervals (listed in the fifth column) which come within a comma of less than eight cents (listed in the fourth column) of a 15-limit tonality diamond interval (listed in the third column). If the comma is less than 1, the fudger is flat of the interval it approximates; if greater than 1, sharp of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p&amp;lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10"&gt;13/10&lt;/a&gt;, and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony &amp;quot;for free&amp;quot;, so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
A limit-raising fudger is a p prime limit interval which approximates to a q prime limit consonance, with p&amp;lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10"&gt;13/10&lt;/a&gt;, and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony &amp;quot;for free&amp;quot;, so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
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By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.&lt;br /&gt;