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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' It's just a single note m8, but somehow it's all we need

: '''Glitchydarkness:''' Perfect, but eventually it gets boring, you can only rely on timbre for so long! I'd know it's all i do

: '''Vector:''' Not as "trivial" as some people think. The 2-limit sorta forces you to think of the octave as less of an equivalence than in higher limits.

== [[2edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' As the others have already explained, this one is a certified hood classic. I second what Bozu and Keenan said

: '''Glitchydarkness:''' Really good for its size, and is the first EDO to have multiple types of chords! There are now sus2 and sus4 chords to be used, the harmony is evolving! We also get some more variety over at the melodic aspect of the scale, and overall everything is better then all previous edos. Even better, we have a perfect fifth! The key to harmony! Overall the best tiny EDO

: '''Vector:''' This is the best 2.3.7 edo by far for its size. Other than that, it's equipentatonic, and so you get the first hint of diatonic-style melody in this edo. It's a subset of 15edo.

== [[6edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': A universe in monochrome. You can make things out, but so much is missing.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' ''wooOO the main character's having a flashback or a dream! *always visually accompanied by a ripple effect*''

: '''Vector:''' Whole tone scale. It's interesting because it has basically all the basic consonances of 12edo except the fifths. I usually end up harmonizing with tritones; it doesn't even sound that dissonant because I'm already using the wholetone scale.

== [[7edo]] ==

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: '''Yourmusic Productions''': The emancipation from harmony, but now with recognisable, if bland diatonic melodies.

: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The basis of knowsur's melody and harmony on the 14edo album NANA WODORI, and thus one of my personal favorites.

: '''Vector:''' This... could honestly fit in as a diatonic tuning. It's the first kind of tuning where we have functional harmony, although all the chords are neutral.

== [[8edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The only song I ever heard in this edo was from the video "1 to 11 tone Equal temperament songs" by 5 hideya, but it sounded like anxiety on steroids.

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 36edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-567-700-833-967-1100¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14:15? Rad! Now play just the 11:12:13:14:15 part of the chord--it's 0-133-267-400-533¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 9edo. You can even extend it to approximate 11:12:13:14:15:19 if you're into that kinky 19-limit stuff, just add 933¢ on top!

: '''Vector:''' Our first mavila edo! I'm not a huge fan of this tuning, because of all the enharmonic notes it gives in mavila. It's the first time we have a distinction between normal major and minor chords, though.

== [[10edo]] ==

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: '''Bill Sethares:''' ''If God Had Intended Us To Play In Ten Tones Per Octave, Then He Would Have Given Us Ten Fingers''

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' How is nobody talking about how awesome this tuning is for 8:13:14:15 chords? Like if you understand 15-limit JI at all, and you look at the intervals of this tuning, the harmonic series implications should just be slapping you across the face with an ice-cold salmon straight from the river. Lots of big accurate EDOs like 50edo and 60edo get their approximations to the 7th, 13th, and 15th harmonics from 10edo. And jeez, give a blues guitarist a 10edo guitar and she'll absolutely shred it without thinking twice because so many blues guitar gestures work just great in 10edo.

: '''Vector''': This EDO is a decent 2.3.5.7 system, somehow, despite only having neutral thirds. It tunes its fifth exactly sharp enough that the neutral third just peeks into the major third range, and as 5/4 is on the flatter end of major thirds, it's just enough to latch on.

== [[11edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime''': For all the hate others have for 12edo, I have love and respect. I believe we microtonal musicians take it for granted, and while it's not the best edo to be the western standard regarding sheer possibilities in this tuning, it's very far from the worst choice imo, and I'd personally choose it as western culture's standard tuning over most all other edos of a similar size.

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' why is no one talking about how good the 8:9:10:12:15:17:19 chords are in this tuning? You can even sneak a 14th harmonic in there at 1000¢ and it won't harsh the sound very noticeably.

: '''Vector:''' The tuning I write most of my music in. It's good enough for writing the kind of music I want to write, as long as that kind of music isn't "xenharmonic". 12edo theory is my inspiration for my 15edo theory system, and my general approach to xenharmony. (It also brought with it a fair share of misconceptions: for a while, I assumed "sharp" just meant "1 edostep", and after I was corrected wtih 17edo I assumed it meant "between whatever intervals are (true) minor and major".)

== [[13edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' Blackwood[10] is like the coolest scale ever, change my mind (you won't)

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' One of my all-time favorite and most-used tunings. It absolutely RULES on guitar, it's so easy, it's so fun, it's so versatile, everyone should try it! Also, why is no one talking about the fact that 15edo is essentially the smallest EDO that can recognizably render harmonics 2, 3, 5, 7, and 11? Yeah, Blackwood[10] is rad AF for having an unbroken circular chain of alternating major and minor 5-limit triads with no wolf intervals, but like...have you seen Triforce[9]? It has three 8:10:11:12:14:15 hexads! That's UNHINGED. Sure they are not tuned super accurately, but you can practically just mash random combinations of pitches in that scale and end up with some recognizable 11-limit harmony. Also, 15edo supports Orgone temperament, like 11edo and 26edo, but unlike those other two, 15edo tempers out 56/55, making 5/4=14/11, and making the utonal counterpart of 8:11:14 equal to 4:5:7. That gives Orgone[7] some extra concordance

: '''Vector:''' A shining example of why the chain of fifths is not suitable as a universal model. 15edo has a diatonic scale (the zarlino scale of 2313231) that makes for a much more familiar interpretation of the tuning than inflecting the 5edo notes up and down. In terms of just intonation, it approximates simple intervals of the 11-limit, and tempers the infamous zarlino wolf fifth flat enough that it merges with the concordant 11th subharmonic, thereby solving the main problem that zarlino itself has.

== [[16edo]] ==

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: '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' I want Easley Blackwood's "16 notes: Andantino" to play at my funeral

: '''Deja Igliashon:''' There's lots of cool stuff happening in 16edo, but a surprising amount of it is basically just inherited from 8edo. What 16edo adds to the mix is a nice 5-limit major 3rd and a nice approximation to the 7th harmonic, and also the freaky-funky Mavila[7] inside-out diatonic (where major chords become minor, minor chords become major, diminished chords become augmented, and mice chase cats). But IDK, despite my high tolerance for tunings with awful or non-existent perfect 5ths, I've yet to find anything I can do in 16edo that I don't feel like I can do better in a different tuning.

: '''Vector:''' Definitive proof that a fifth doesn't need to be a 3/2. (TBA)

== [[17edo]] ==

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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' It's just a single note m8, but somehow it's all we need
 : '''Glitchydarkness:''' Perfect, but eventually it gets boring, you can only rely on timbre for so long! I'd know it's all i do
+: '''Vector:''' Not as "trivial" as some people think. The 2-limit sorta forces you to think of the octave as less of an equivalence than in higher limits.
 == [[2edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' As the others have already explained, this one is a certified hood classic. I second what Bozu and Keenan said
 : '''Glitchydarkness:''' Really good for its size, and is the first EDO to have multiple types of chords! There are now sus2 and sus4 chords to be used, the harmony is evolving! We also get some more variety over at the melodic aspect of the scale, and overall everything is better then all previous edos. Even better, we have a perfect fifth! The key to harmony! Overall the best tiny EDO
+: '''Vector:''' This is the best 2.3.7 edo by far for its size. Other than that, it's equipentatonic, and so you get the first hint of diatonic-style melody in this edo. It's a subset of 15edo.
 == [[6edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': A universe in monochrome. You can make things out, but so much is missing.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' ''wooOO the main character's having a flashback or a dream! *always visually accompanied by a ripple effect*''
+: '''Vector:''' Whole tone scale. It's interesting because it has basically all the basic consonances of 12edo except the fifths. I usually end up harmonizing with tritones; it doesn't even sound that dissonant because I'm already using the wholetone scale.
 == [[7edo]] ==
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 : '''Yourmusic Productions''': The emancipation from harmony, but now with recognisable, if bland diatonic melodies.
 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The basis of knowsur's melody and harmony on the 14edo album NANA WODORI, and thus one of my personal favorites.
+: '''Vector:''' This... could honestly fit in as a diatonic tuning. It's the first kind of tuning where we have functional harmony, although all the chords are neutral.
 == [[8edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' The only song I ever heard in this edo was from the video "1 to 11 tone Equal temperament songs" by 5 hideya, but it sounded like anxiety on steroids.
 : '''Deja Igliashon:''' Do you like 36edo? Do you think a chord of 0-400-567-700-833-967-1100¢ sounds close enough to 8:10:11:12:13:14:15? Rad! Now play just the 11:12:13:14:15 part of the chord--it's 0-133-267-400-533¢, which also happens to be five consecutive notes of 9edo. You can even extend it to approximate 11:12:13:14:15:19 if you're into that kinky 19-limit stuff, just add 933¢ on top!
+: '''Vector:''' Our first mavila edo! I'm not a huge fan of this tuning, because of all the enharmonic notes it gives in mavila.  It's the first time we have a distinction between normal major and minor chords, though.
 == [[10edo]] ==
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 : '''Bill Sethares:''' ''If God Had Intended Us To Play In Ten Tones Per Octave, Then He Would Have Given Us Ten Fingers''
 : '''Deja Igliashon:''' How is nobody talking about how awesome this tuning is for 8:13:14:15 chords? Like if you understand 15-limit JI at all, and you look at the intervals of this tuning, the harmonic series implications should just be slapping you across the face with an ice-cold salmon straight from the river. Lots of big accurate EDOs like 50edo and 60edo get their approximations to the 7th, 13th, and 15th harmonics from 10edo. And jeez, give a blues guitarist a 10edo guitar and she'll absolutely shred it without thinking twice because so many blues guitar gestures work just great in 10edo.
+: '''Vector''': This EDO is a decent 2.3.5.7 system, somehow, despite only having neutral thirds. It tunes its fifth exactly sharp enough that the neutral third just peeks into the major third range, and as 5/4 is on the flatter end of major thirds, it's just enough to latch on.
 == [[11edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime''': For all the hate others have for 12edo, I have love and respect. I believe we microtonal musicians take it for granted, and while it's not the best edo to be the western standard regarding sheer possibilities in this tuning, it's very far from the worst choice imo, and I'd personally choose it as western culture's standard tuning over most all other edos of a similar size.
 : '''Deja Igliashon:''' why is no one talking about how good the 8:9:10:12:15:17:19 chords are in this tuning? You can even sneak a 14th harmonic in there at 1000¢ and it won't harsh the sound very noticeably.
+: '''Vector:''' The tuning I write most of my music in. It's good enough for writing the kind of music I want to write, as long as that kind of music isn't "xenharmonic". 12edo theory is my inspiration for my 15edo theory system, and my general approach to xenharmony. (It also brought with it a fair share of misconceptions: for a while, I assumed "sharp" just meant "1 edostep", and after I was corrected wtih 17edo I assumed it meant "between whatever intervals are (true) minor and major".)
 == [[13edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' Blackwood[10] is like the coolest scale ever, change my mind (you won't)
 : '''Deja Igliashon:''' One of my all-time favorite and most-used tunings. It absolutely RULES on guitar, it's so easy, it's so fun, it's so versatile, everyone should try it! Also, why is no one talking about the fact that 15edo is essentially the smallest EDO that can recognizably render harmonics 2, 3, 5, 7, and 11? Yeah, Blackwood[10] is rad AF for having an unbroken circular chain of alternating major and minor 5-limit triads with no wolf intervals, but like...have you seen Triforce[9]? It has three 8:10:11:12:14:15 hexads! That's UNHINGED. Sure they are not tuned super accurately, but you can practically just mash random combinations of pitches in that scale and end up with some recognizable 11-limit harmony. Also, 15edo supports Orgone temperament, like 11edo and 26edo, but unlike those other two, 15edo tempers out 56/55, making 5/4=14/11, and making the utonal counterpart of 8:11:14 equal to 4:5:7. That gives Orgone[7] some extra concordance
+: '''Vector:''' A shining example of why the chain of fifths is not suitable as a universal model. 15edo has a diatonic scale (the zarlino scale of 2313231) that makes for a much more familiar interpretation of the tuning than inflecting the 5edo notes up and down. In terms of just intonation, it approximates simple intervals of the 11-limit, and tempers the infamous zarlino wolf fifth flat enough that it merges with the concordant 11th subharmonic, thereby solving the main problem that zarlino itself has.
 == [[16edo]] ==
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 : '''Carmen14edo/Bragtime:''' I want Easley Blackwood's "16 notes: Andantino" to play at my funeral
 : '''Deja Igliashon:''' There's lots of cool stuff happening in 16edo, but a surprising amount of it is basically just inherited from 8edo. What 16edo adds to the mix is a nice 5-limit major 3rd and a nice approximation to the 7th harmonic, and also the freaky-funky Mavila[7] inside-out diatonic (where major chords become minor, minor chords become major, diminished chords become augmented, and mice chase cats). But IDK, despite my high tolerance for tunings with awful or non-existent perfect 5ths, I've yet to find anything I can do in 16edo that I don't feel like I can do better in a different tuning.
+: '''Vector:''' Definitive proof that a fifth doesn't need to be a 3/2. (TBA)
 == [[17edo]] ==