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===Tertiaseptal===

Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.</pre></div>

Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.

===Neptune===

Neptune adds 48828125/48771072 = |-12 -5 11 -2> to the list of commas, and may be described as the 68&171 temperament. It has 10/7 or 7/5 as a generator. The generator chain goes merrily on, stacking one 10/7 over another. until after eighteen generator steps 6/5 (up nine octaves) is reached. Then in succession we get 12/7, the neutral third, 7/4 and 5/4. Two neutral thirds then gives a fifth, and these intervals with their inverses are the full set of septimal consonances. [[171edo]] makes a good tuning, and we can also choose to make any of the consonances besides 7/5 and 10/7 just.

Adding 385/384 or 1375/1372 to the list of commas allows for an extension to the 11-limit, where (7/5)^3 equates to 11/4. This may be described as <<40 22 21 -3 ...|| or 68&103, and 171 can still be used as a tuning, with val <171 271 397 480 591|.

An article on Neptune as an analog of miracle can be found [[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/message/6001|here]].

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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Breedsmic temperaments</title></head><body>Breedsmic temperaments are rank two temperaments tempering out the breedsma, 2401/2400. This is the amount by which two 49/40 intervals exceed 3/2, and by which two 60/49 intervals fall short. Either of these represent a neutral third interval which is highly characteristic of breedsmic tempering; any tuning system (12edo, for example) which does not possess a neutral third cannot be tempering out the breedsma.<br />

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<h3 id="toc0"><a name="x--Tertiaseptal"></a>Tertiaseptal</h3>

Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&amp;171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. <a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo">171edo</a> makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.</body></html></pre></div>

Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&amp;171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. <a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo">171edo</a> makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.<br />

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<h3 id="toc1"><a name="x--Neptune"></a>Neptune</h3>

Neptune adds 48828125/48771072 = |-12 -5 11 -2&gt; to the list of commas, and may be described as the 68&amp;171 temperament. It has 10/7 or 7/5 as a generator. The generator chain goes merrily on, stacking one 10/7 over another. until after eighteen generator steps 6/5 (up nine octaves) is reached. Then in succession we get 12/7, the neutral third, 7/4 and 5/4. Two neutral thirds then gives a fifth, and these intervals with their inverses are the full set of septimal consonances. <a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo">171edo</a> makes a good tuning, and we can also choose to make any of the consonances besides 7/5 and 10/7 just.<br />

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Adding 385/384 or 1375/1372 to the list of commas allows for an extension to the 11-limit, where (7/5)^3 equates to 11/4. This may be described as &lt;&lt;40 22 21 -3 ...|| or 68&amp;103, and 171 can still be used as a tuning, with val &lt;171 271 397 480 591|.<br />

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An article on Neptune as an analog of miracle can be found <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/message/6001" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</body></html></pre></div>

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 ===Tertiaseptal===
-Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&amp;171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.</pre></div>
+Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&amp;171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. [[171edo]] makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.
+===Neptune===
+Neptune adds 48828125/48771072 = |-12 -5 11 -2&gt; to the list of commas, and may be described as the 68&amp;171 temperament. It has 10/7 or 7/5 as a generator. The generator chain goes merrily on, stacking one 10/7 over another. until after eighteen generator steps 6/5 (up nine octaves) is reached. Then in succession we get 12/7, the neutral third, 7/4 and 5/4. Two neutral thirds then gives a fifth, and these intervals with their inverses are the full set of septimal consonances. [[171edo]] makes a good tuning, and we can also choose to make any of the consonances besides 7/5 and 10/7 just.
+Adding 385/384 or 1375/1372 to the list of commas allows for an extension to the 11-limit, where (7/5)^3 equates to 11/4. This may be described as &lt;&lt;40 22 21 -3 ...|| or 68&amp;103, and 171 can still be used as a tuning, with val &lt;171 271 397 480  591|.
+An article on Neptune as an analog of miracle can be found [[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/message/6001|here]].
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+Aside from the breedsma, tertiaseptal tempers out 65625/65536, the horwell comma, 703125/702464, the meter, and 2100875/2097152. It can be described as the 140&amp;amp;171 temperament, and 256/245, 1029/1024 less than 21/20, serves as its generator. Three of these fall short of 8/7 by 2100875/2097152, and the generator can be taken as 1/3 of an 8/7 flattened by a fraction of a cent. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for an excellent tuning. The 15 or 16 note MOS can be used to explore no-threes harmony, and the 31 note MOS gives plenty of room for those as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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+Neptune adds 48828125/48771072 = |-12 -5 11 -2&amp;gt; to the list of commas, and may be described as the 68&amp;amp;171 temperament. It has 10/7 or 7/5 as a generator. The generator chain goes merrily on, stacking one 10/7 over another. until after eighteen generator steps 6/5 (up nine octaves) is reached. Then in succession we get 12/7, the neutral third, 7/4 and 5/4. Two neutral thirds then gives a fifth, and these intervals with their inverses are the full set of septimal consonances. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171edo&lt;/a&gt; makes a good tuning, and we can also choose to make any of the consonances besides 7/5 and 10/7 just.&lt;br /&gt;
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+Adding 385/384 or 1375/1372 to the list of commas allows for an extension to the 11-limit, where (7/5)^3 equates to 11/4. This may be described as &amp;lt;&amp;lt;40 22 21 -3 ...|| or 68&amp;amp;103, and 171 can still be used as a tuning, with val &amp;lt;171 271 397 480  591|.&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;br /&gt;
+An article on Neptune as an analog of miracle can be found &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/message/6001" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>