Talk:Kartvelian scales

There are many pages for these scales like Kartvelian Octatonic which describe two different tuning systems. These should be split into two seperate pages (for exmple for Kartvelian Octatonic, it would be split it into "4edf-4ed4/3 Kartvelian" and "5edf-3ed4/3 Kartvelian") or at least put in different sections in my opinion, since they are definitely not the same scale. CompactStar (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree. I think splitting them into different subheadings in the same article is a good idea. “Kartvelian Octatonic” can be a page about a scale family, and each of the subheadings can be a scale within that family, like "4edf-4ed4/3 Kartvelian" and "5edf-3ed4/3 Kartvelian". Later today when I’ve had a bit more caffeine, I might go through all the Kartvelian pages and implement this. Although if you’d like to do so yourself, feel free to go ahead and do it, I’m happy either way :) --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 23:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I think what I may actually do is merge them all into the Kartvelian scales article. I will format the article something like this:

The '''Kartvelian scales''' generalize the [[wikipedia:Music_of_Georgia_(country)#Scales_and_tuning_system|traditional scale of Georgian folk music]] to divide the perfect [[Ed4/3|fourth]] and [[EDF|fifth]] into arbitrary numbers of equal steps. This scale, called “untempered” on Wikipedia, is more properly described as the first known [[well temperament]] in music history. The fifth, or conversely the  fourth, will be an interval of the corresponding [[edo]] which may generate [[2L 3s]] or [[3L 2s]] and normally stands within one edo degree of 3/2.
 
= Examples =
 
== Kartvelian ditonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[1edf]] and [[1ed4/3]].
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== Kartvelian tritonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[2edf]] and [[1ed4/3]].
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== Kartvelian tetratonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[2edf]] and [[2ed4/3]].
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== Kartvelian pentatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[3edf]] and [[2ed4/3]]. Approximates the [[Slendro]] scale.
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== 3edf Kartvelian hexatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[3edf]] and [[3ed4/3]].
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== 4edf Kartvelian hexatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[4edf]] and [[2ed4/3]].
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== Traditional [[Kartvelian scale]] ==
An alternating pattern of [[4edf]] and [[3ed4/3]].
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== 4edf Kartvelian octatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[4edf]] and [[4ed4/3]].
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== 5edf Kartvelian octatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[5edf]] and [[3ed4/3]].
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== 5edf Kartvelian enneatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[5edf]] and [[4ed4/3]]. Approximates the 9-tone [[Pelog]] scale.
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== 6edf Kartvelian enneatonic ==
An alternating pattern of [[6edf]] and [[3ed4/3]].
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(And so on…)

= See also =
 
[[Category:Lists of scales]]
[[Category:Scales by family]]

I've started work on this now. I'm writing it in a text file on my computer and then I'll copy-paste it in to the Kartvelian scales page once it's done. Then I'll change the individual pages to redirects to the main Kartvelian scales page. I will have to leave home for a few hours during this time so it's going to take me a while. I'll aim to get it done later today (Sydney time). --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 02:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC)