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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Name = palingenesis comma, palingenetic comma, palingenesma
| Name = palingenetic comma, palingenesis, palingenesma
| Color name = 17uzgg1, suzogugu unison
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
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'''1701/1700''', the '''palingenesis comma''', also known as the '''palingenetic comma''', or '''palingenesma''', is a [[17-limit]] [[unnoticeable comma]] with a size of roughly 1.02 cents. It identifies the [[21/17|septendecimal submajor third (21/17)]] by a stack of two [[10/9]] intervals, therefore making it comparable with the [[325/324|marveltwin (325/324)]]. It is, in fact, the difference between the [[273/272|tannisma]] and the marveltwin. It also arises as the amount by which a stack consisting of [[27/16]] and [[28/25]] exceeds [[17/9]], and the the amount by which [[85/84]] falls short of [[81/80]].  When tempered out in a linearly independent fashion, the resulting temperaments are called "'''palingenetic temperaments'''", and are characterized by the presence of [[Dyadic chord|essentially tempered chord]]s called "[[palingenetic chords]]" in the [[27-odd-limit]].
'''1701/1700''', the '''palingenetic comma''', also known as the '''palingenesis''', or '''palingenesma''', is a [[17-limit]] [[unnoticeable comma]] with a size of roughly 1.02 cents. It identifies the [[21/17|septendecimal submajor third (21/17)]] by a stack of two [[10/9]] intervals, therefore making it comparable with the [[325/324|marveltwin (325/324)]]. It is, in fact, the difference between the tannisma and the marveltwin. See [[#Commatic relations]] below. It also arises as the amount by which a stack consisting of [[27/16]] and [[28/25]] exceeds [[17/9]].   


This comma's names ultimately come from the Ancient Greek word "palingenesía" (meaning "rebirth", "regeneration" or "renaissance"<ref>[[Wiktionary: palingenesis #English]]</ref>), a fitting name since people often hope for a new start after each year.  The name is also appropriate in light of how certain essentially tempered chords generated by this comma are evocative of the kinds of chords heard in [[12edo]], which, oddly enough, actually tempers out this comma.
In [[Sagittal notation]], it is the default comma represented by seven [[tina]]s.
 
== Commatic relations ==
This comma is the difference between the following superparticular pairs:
 
* [[81/80]] and [[85/84]] *
* [[126/125]] and [[136/135]] *
* [[273/272]] and [[325/324]]
* [[351/350]] and [[442/441]]
* [[441/440]] and [[595/594]]
* [[729/728]] and [[1275/1274]]
* [[936/935]] and [[2080/2079]]
* [[1001/1000]] and [[2431/2430]]
* [[1089/1088]] and [[3025/3024]]
* [[1225/1224]] and [[4375/4374]] *
 
It factors into the following superparticular pairs:  
* [[2601/2600]] and [[4914/4913]]
* [[2401/2400]] and [[5832/5831]] *
* [[2058/2057]] and [[9801/9800]]
* [[1716/1715]] and [[194481/194480]]
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki> both of these commas are also within the 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup.
 
== Temperaments ==
When tempered out in the full 17-limit, the resulting temperament is called the '''palingenetic temperament''', or in the 2.3.5.7.17 subgroup, the '''palingenetian temperament'''. Both are characterized by the presence of [[Dyadic chord|essentially tempered chord]]s called [[palingenetic chords]] in the [[21-odd-limit|21-]] and [[27-odd-limit]].


In [[Sagittal notation]], it is the default comma represented by seven [[tina]]s.  
== Etymology ==
This comma was named by [[Aura]] in 2020. Its names ultimately come from the Ancient Greek word [[Wiktionary: palingenesis #English|''palingenesía'']] ("rebirth", "regeneration" or "renaissance"), a fitting name since people often hope for a new start after each year. The name is also appropriate in light of how certain essentially tempered chords generated by this comma are evocative of the kinds of chords heard in [[12edo]], which, oddly enough, actually tempers out this comma.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
== References ==
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[[Category:Palingenetic]]
[[Category:Palingenetic]]
[[Category:Commas named by translating something into another language]]