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The '''cloudy clan''' tempers out the [[cloudy comma]], 16807/16384, thus splitting the octave into 5 equal parts and mapping the harmonic 7 to 4\5.
#redirect [[Cloudy comma]]
 
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
* [[Blacksmith]], {28/27, 49/48} → [[Limmic temperaments #Blacksmith|Limmic temperaments]]
* [[Cloudtone]], {81/80, 16807/16384} → [[Meantone family #Cloudtone|Meantone family]]
* [[Pental]], {245/243, 16807/16384} → [[Pental family #Pentacloud|Pental family]]
* [[Sengasec]], {686/675, 16807/16384} → [[Qintosec family #Sengasec|Qintosec family]]
* [[Warlock]], {3125/3072, 16807/16384} → [[Magic family #Warlock|Magic family]]
 
== Coblack ==
{{See also| Trisedodge family #Coblack }}
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 16807/16384
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 5 7 11 14 }}, {{val| 0 3 2 0 }}]
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 15 10 0 -19 -42 -28 }}
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~21/20 = 73.044
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 35, 50, 65, 115d }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.107282
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 126/125, 245/242, 385/384
 
Mapping: [{{val| 5 7 11 14 17 }}, {{val| 0 3 2 0 1 }}]
 
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 73.264
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 35, 50, 65, 115d }}
 
Badness: 0.045070
 
== Decic ==
The ''decic'' temperament (10&50) tempers out the [[cloudy comma]], 16807/16384 and the [[225/224|marvel comma]], 225/224 in the 7-limit, as well as the [[15/14ths equal temperament|linus comma]], {{monzo|11 -10 -10 10}}. This temperament is supported by [[10edo|10]], [[50edo|50]], and [[60edo|60]] EDOs, and can be extended naturally to the 11-, 13-, and 17-limit by adding 385/384, 105/104, and 170/169 to the comma list in this order.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 16807/16384
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 10 0 39 28 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 10 -10 0 -39 -28 28 }}
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 698.696
 
[[Tuning ranges]]:
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [680.000, 720.000] (34\60 to 6\10)
* 9-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.000, 720.000] (29\50 to 6\10)
* 7- and 9-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [693.129, 702.512]
* 7-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [693.129, 702.512]
* 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.000, 702.512]
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 10, 50, 60, 110d, 170cdd }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.089135
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 3087/3025
 
Mapping: [{{val| 10 0 39 28 3 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 2 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 696.791
 
Tuning ranges:
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000] (29\50 to 35\60)
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [689.363, 702.512]
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000]
 
Vals: {{Val list| 10, 50 }}
 
Badness: 0.063900
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 2200/2197
 
Mapping: [{{val| 10 0 39 28 3 37 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 2 0 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~14/13, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 696.993
 
Tuning ranges:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000] (29\50 to 35\60)
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [689.363, 702.512]
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000]
 
Vals: {{Val list| 10, 50 }}
 
Badness: 0.036880
 
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 170/169, 196/195, 221/220
 
Mapping: [{{val| 10 0 39 28 3 37 25 }}, {{val| 0 1 -1 0 2 0 1 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~14/13, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 697.085
 
Tuning ranges:
* 17-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000] (29\50 to 35\60)
* 17-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [689.363, 704.955]
* 17-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.000, 700.000]
 
Vals: {{Val list| 10, 50 }}
 
Badness: 0.025064
 
== Pentadecal ==
The ''pentadecal'' temperament tempers out the 15-5/3-comma (Quintriyo, pentadecatonic minor thirds comma), {{monzo|-11 -15 15}}. This temperament can be described as 15&60 temperament, tempering out the [[cloudy comma]], 16807/16384 and the [[875/864|keema]], 875/864 in the 7-limit.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 30517578125/29386561536
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|15 0 11}}, {{val|0 1 1}}]
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 702.652
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 45, 60, 75, 135, 210c, 345cc }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.692042
 
=== 7-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 16807/16384
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|15 0 11 42}}, {{val|0 1 1 0}}]
 
Mapping generators: ~21/20, ~3
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 700.223
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 45, 60 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.114833
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 1372/1331
 
Mapping: [{{val|15 0 11 42 52}}, {{val|0 1 1 0 0}}]
 
Mapping generators: ~21/20, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 702.733
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 45, 60, 75de, 135de }}
 
Badness: 0.077420
 
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 144/143, 1372/1331
 
Mapping: [{{val|15 0 11 42 52 8}}, {{val|0 1 1 0 0 2}}]
 
Mapping generators: ~21/20, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.715
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 45f, 60, 135de, 195cddee }}
 
Badness: 0.051740
 
=== Quindecal ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 121/120, 441/440, 875/864
 
Mapping: [{{val|15 0 11 42 28}}, {{val|0 1 1 0 1}}]
 
Mapping generators: ~21/20, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 700.318
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 45e, 60e }}
 
Badness: 0.044405
 
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 121/120, 196/195, 352/351, 875/864
 
Mapping: [{{val|15 0 11 42 28 103}}, {{val|0 1 1 0 1 -2}}]
 
Mapping generators: ~21/20, ~3
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.647
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15f, 45e, 60e }}
 
Badness: 0.055361
 
== Quinkee ==
The ''quinkee'' temperament (15&40) has a period of 1/5 octave and tempers out the keega (1029/1000), and from this it derives its name.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 1029/1000, 6144/6125
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|5 9 12 14}}, {{val|0 -3 -1 0}}]
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 393.439
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 40, 55, 125cd, 180ccdd }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.184222
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 1029/1000
 
Mapping: [{{val|5 9 12 14 18}}, {{val|0 -3 -1 0 -2}}]
 
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 393.438
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 40, 55, 125cd, 180ccdde }}
 
Badness: 0.065192
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 121/120, 637/625
 
Mapping: [{{val|5 9 12 14 18 20}}, {{val|0 -3 -1 0 -2 -4}}]
 
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 392.798
 
Vals: {{Val list| 15, 40, 55 }}
 
Badness: 0.048440
 
[[Category:Regular temperament theory]]
[[Category:Temperament clan]]
[[Category:Cloudy]]
[[Category:Rank 2]]

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