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=Yarman temperament=
This is a collection of some proposed [[temperament]]s for [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Turkish maqam music]].  
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam <span style="">music</span> using a [[MOSScales|MOS]] of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:


[&lt;1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60|] <br>vs. <br>[&lt;1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5|, &lt;0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60|]
== Yarman temperament ==
{{See also| Quartonic family }}


The first mapping may be called 79&amp;159 in terms of [[patent val]]s, and the second 80&amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, i.e. one with pure fifths, is also possible.
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a [[mos]] of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2\159, which suggests the 19-limit mappings:


== 80&amp;159 temperament ==
* {{Mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5 | 0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60 }}
Commas: 10976/10935, 244140625/243045684
* {{Mapping| 1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5 | 0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60 }}


[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~126/125 = 15.0667
The first mapping may be called 79 &amp; 159 in terms of [[patent val]]s, and the second 80 &amp; 159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently, and both temperaments are weak [[7-limit]] extensions of [[Quartonic family|quartonic temperament]]. A Pythagorean tuning, i.e. one with pure fifths, is also possible.


Map: [&lt;1 2 3 4|, &lt;0 -33 -54 -95|]
== Karadeniz temperament ==
{{See also| Schismatic family #Garibaldi }}


EDOs: {{EDOs|79d, 80, 159, 239}}
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41-note mos with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator.


Badness: 0.193315
It tempers out [[225/224]], [[243/242]], [[3025/3024]], [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], and [[5120/5103]], and can also be called 41 &amp; 106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.


=== 11-limit yarman ===
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Commas: 3025/3024, 4000/3993, 10976/10935
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POTE generator: ~121/120 = 15.0658
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Map: [&lt;1 2 3 4 4|, &lt;0 -33 -54 -95 -43|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|79d, 80, 159, 239}}
 
Badness: 0.049170
 
=== 13-limit yarman ===
Commas: 325/324, 364/363, 1001/1000, 10976/10935
 
POTE generator: ~121/120 = 15.0752
 
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 4 4 4|, &lt;0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|79d, 80, 159, 239}}
 
Badness: 0.040929
 
== 79&amp;159 temperament ==
Commas: 5359375/5308416, 390625000/387420489
 
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~6144/6125 = 15.1062
 
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|79, 80d, 159, 238c, 239d}}
 
Badness: 0.655487
 
=== 11-limit 79&amp;159 ===
Commas: 385/384, 4000/3993, 78121827/77948684
 
POTE generator: ~121/120 = 15.1071
 
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2 4|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64 -43|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|79, 80d, 159, 238c, 239d}}
 
Badness: 0.143477
 
=== 13-limit 79&amp;159 ===
Commas: 325/324, 385/384, 1575/1573, 85683/85184
 
POTE generator: ~121/120 = 15.1071
 
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2 4 4|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|79, 80d, 159, 238cf, 239d}}
 
Badness: 0.068150
 
=Karadeniz temperament=
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:
 
&lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||
 
which in the 11-limit becomes:
 
&lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 -30 -50 1 -20 67 111||
 
It tempers out 3125/3087, 4000/3969, 243/242, 5120/5103, 225/224, and 3025/3024, and can also be called 41&amp;106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.
 
== 11-limit ==
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 3125/3087
 
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~11/9 = 350.994
 
Map: [&lt;1 1 7 11 2|, &lt;0 2 -16 -28 5|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|41, 106, 147}}
 
Badness: 0.041562
 
== 13-limit ==
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 325/324, 640/637
 
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 351.014
 
Map: [&lt;1 1 7 11 2 -8|, &lt;0 2 -16 -28 5 40|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|41, 106, 147}}
 
Badness: 0.042564
 
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Latest revision as of 00:34, 24 June 2025

This is a collection of some proposed temperaments for Turkish maqam music.

Yarman temperament

See also: Quartonic family

Ozan Yarman has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a mos of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2\159, which suggests the 19-limit mappings:

  • [⟨1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5], ⟨0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60]]
  • [⟨1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5], ⟨0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60]]

The first mapping may be called 79 & 159 in terms of patent vals, and the second 80 & 159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently, and both temperaments are weak 7-limit extensions of quartonic temperament. A Pythagorean tuning, i.e. one with pure fifths, is also possible.

Karadeniz temperament

See also: Schismatic family § Garibaldi

K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41-note mos with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator.

It tempers out 225/224, 243/242, 3025/3024, 3125/3087, 4000/3969, and 5120/5103, and can also be called 41 & 106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.

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