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: I'm afraid a lot of other mega-edo pages are written this way, too. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 09:46, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

:: Yes, a lot of work on old pages, but we should especially have an eye on newly created pages. Of course, when we now edit old pages (especially for minor fixes) we have to be careful what we leave behind. People tend to get used to things that they see as accepted by others, especially by experienced users. Take [[206edo]] for an example, it's better now but still not good, we should add it in some [[:Category:Todo|todo category]], but I don't find the right one (rework seems to much, review to little). To get back to this article, I think that enumerations of technical facts should be made obvious as such. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 11:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

:: I started [[:Category:Todo:improve readability]] for cases like this. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 11:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

::: Unfortunately, I didn't have as many resources for figuring out what commas this EDO tempered out. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

:::: I fear you completely misunderstand my point. I'm guessing you weren't too enthusiastic about text problems in math class either? So why do you choose the text form to represent commas (these are in the end also a collection of mathematical facts)? Maybe a list or table would do a better job here. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 17:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

::::: It's easier for me to identify commas by their names in many cases- particularly with more complex commas. The trouble I had was in finding the commas on this wiki's lists that are tempered out. Regardless, I do agree that we need comma tables. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

== Name (ratio) vs ratio (name) ==

Which is the better format for showing the commas in the circumstance of a large edo? Ratio (name) seems better to me because large edos tend to temper out some unnamed commas that are among the simplest for that edo. We can turn to monzo when the ratio gets complex enough. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 16:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

: This whole issue tells me one of the reasons that comma tables like the one for [[72edo]] are needed. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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 : I'm afraid a lot of other mega-edo pages are written this way, too. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 09:46, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+:: Yes, a lot of work on old pages, but we should especially have an eye on newly created pages. Of course, when we now edit old pages (especially for minor fixes) we have to be careful what we leave behind. People tend to get used to things that they see as accepted by others, especially by experienced users. Take [[206edo]] for an example, it's better now but still not good, we should add it in some [[:Category:Todo|todo category]], but I don't find the right one (rework seems to much, review to little). To get back to this article, I think that enumerations of technical facts should be made obvious as such. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 11:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+:: I started [[:Category:Todo:improve readability]] for cases like this. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 11:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+::: Unfortunately, I didn't have as many resources for figuring out what commas this EDO tempered out. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+:::: I fear you completely misunderstand my point. I'm guessing you weren't too enthusiastic about text problems in math class either? So why do you choose the text form to represent commas (these are in the end also a collection of mathematical facts)? Maybe a list or table would do a better job here. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 17:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+::::: It's easier for me to identify commas by their names in many cases- particularly with more complex commas.  The trouble I had was in finding the commas on this wiki's lists that are tempered out.  Regardless, I do agree that we need comma tables. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+== Name (ratio) vs ratio (name) ==
+Which is the better format for showing the commas in the circumstance of a large edo? Ratio (name) seems better to me because large edos tend to temper out some unnamed commas that are among the simplest for that edo. We can turn to monzo when the ratio gets complex enough. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 16:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
+: This whole issue tells me one of the reasons that comma tables like the one for [[72edo]] are needed. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)