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== New temperament - not sure if it exists ==

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Warlock: tempers out 16807/16384 and 3125/3072. It is exceptionally well-tuned in 60edo. [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]]) 01:45, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

~~== History ==~~

: <s>Just curious, who named this temperament? May I find one and name it too? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)</s>

~~When was the term "magic~~ temperament~~" coined~~ and ~~by whom? What is the story behind the~~ name?

~~- '''Natebedell''' September 05, 2011, 12~~:11:~~45 PM UTC-0700~~

:: I named it after looking for interesting commas.[[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]])

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~~Graham came up with~~ it~~, I think by analogy with miracle~~.

~~- '''genewardsmith''' September 05, 2011, 12~~:37:~~53 PM UTC-0700~~

:: Can I ask what the generator for this is? --[[User:CritDeathX|CritDeathX]] ([[User talk:CritDeathX|talk]]) 15:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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I ~~may have seen it spelled "majic", making~~ the ~~connection with the major~~-~~third~~-~~size generator.~~

~~- '''xenjacob''' September 05, 2011, 03~~:08:~~44 PM UTC-0700~~

::: T8/7 (240¢) and T5/4 (~380¢). The 100¢ generator is probably 256/245.[[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]])

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~~Nate's question is interesting,~~ and so is the answer. I'd like to know more about who named what temperament and why. A lot of these wiki articles make it sound like all these ideas fell out of the sky, but in fact it was living, breathing humans doing creative number-crunching and tuning up keyboards.

~~- '''Andrew_Heathwaite''' November 29~~, ~~2011~~, ~~09:05:34 PM UTC~~-~~0800~~

::: I ran it thru the temperament finder and my own code. This is the 25 & 35 temperament. Commas: 3125/3072, 16803/16384. Map: [<5 10 12 14|, <0 -5 -1 0|]. Wedgie: <<25 5 0 -50 -70 -13||. POTE generator: 100.1869. Badness: 0.287. Fits high badness temperament :) [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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~~I called it magic by analogy with miracle, as Gene said~~. ~~But particularly from the Fleetwood Mac song "You Make Loving Fun" that happens to use the word "miracle" and that I happened to listen to at around that time~~.

~~I came up with the backronym "multiple approximations generated iteratively~~ and ~~consistently" also by analogy with miracle~~.

:::: Surprised by that. Using 60edo values, 7/4 is 960¢ (pretty accurate), 5/4 is 380¢ (still accurate, better than augmented), and 3/2 is 700¢ (pretty accurate). [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]]

~~The business of major thirds -> majic is a coincidence~~. ~~I was too dense~~ to ~~notice that~~.

: No wonder it fits 60edo so well. After tempering out 245/243 to allow the generator to represent 256/243, not just 256/245, it becomes 60edo.

- '~~''x31eq''' January 26, 2013, 04~~:41:~~02 AM~~ UTC~~-0800~~

: Maybe we'll log this anyway. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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+Warlock: tempers out 16807/16384 and 3125/3072. It is exceptionally well-tuned in 60edo. [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]]) 01:45, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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+: <s>Just curious, who named this temperament? May I find one and name it too? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)</s>
-When was the term "magic temperament" coined and by whom? What is the story behind the name?
-- '''Natebedell''' September 05, 2011, 12:11:45 PM UTC-0700
+:: I named it after looking for interesting commas.[[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]])
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-Graham came up with it, I think by analogy with miracle.
-- '''genewardsmith''' September 05, 2011, 12:37:53 PM UTC-0700
+:: Can I ask what the generator for this is? --[[User:CritDeathX|CritDeathX]] ([[User talk:CritDeathX|talk]]) 15:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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-I may have seen it spelled "majic", making the connection with the major-third-size generator.
-- '''xenjacob''' September 05, 2011, 03:08:44 PM UTC-0700
+::: T8/7 (240¢) and T5/4 (~380¢). The 100¢ generator is probably 256/245.[[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]])
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-Nate's question is interesting, and so is the answer.  I'd like to know more about who named what temperament and why.  A lot of these wiki articles make it sound like all these ideas fell out of the sky, but in fact it was living, breathing humans doing creative number-crunching and tuning up keyboards.
-- '''Andrew_Heathwaite''' November 29, 2011, 09:05:34 PM UTC-0800
+::: I ran it thru the temperament finder and my own code. This is the 25 & 35 temperament. Commas: 3125/3072, 16803/16384. Map: [<5 10 12 14|, <0 -5 -1 0|]. Wedgie: <<25 5 0 -50 -70 -13||. POTE generator: 100.1869. Badness: 0.287. Fits high badness temperament :) [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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-I called it magic by analogy with miracle, as Gene said.  But particularly from the Fleetwood Mac song "You Make Loving Fun" that happens to use the word "miracle" and that I happened to listen to at around that time.
-I came up with the backronym "multiple approximations generated iteratively and consistently" also by analogy with miracle.
+:::: Surprised by that. Using 60edo values, 7/4 is 960¢ (pretty accurate), 5/4 is 380¢ (still accurate, better than augmented), and 3/2 is 700¢ (pretty accurate). [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] ([[User talk:Jerdle|talk]]
-The business of major thirds -&gt; majic is a coincidence.  I was too dense to notice that.
+: No wonder it fits 60edo so well. After tempering out 245/243 to allow the generator to represent 256/243, not just 256/245, it becomes 60edo.
-- '''x31eq''' January 26, 2013, 04:41:02 AM UTC-0800
+: Maybe we'll log this anyway. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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