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Temperaments discussed in families and clans are: | Temperaments discussed in families and clans are: | ||
* ''[[Brutus]]'' (+10/9) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Brutus|Very low accuracy temperaments]] | |||
* ''[[Pater]]'' (+16/15) → [[Father family #Pater|Father family]] | * ''[[Pater]]'' (+16/15) → [[Father family #Pater|Father family]] | ||
* [[Meantone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]] | |||
* ''[[Mavling]]'' (+135/128) → [[Mavila family #Mavling|Mavila family]] | |||
* ''[[Grackle]]'' (+32805/32768) → [[Schismatic family #Grackle|Schismatic family]] | |||
* ''[[Flattie]]'' (+21/20) → [[Dicot family #Flattie|Dicot family]] | * ''[[Flattie]]'' (+21/20) → [[Dicot family #Flattie|Dicot family]] | ||
* | * [[Diaschismic]] (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Septimal diaschismic|Diaschismic family]] | ||
* [[Augene]] (+64/63) → [[Augmented family #Augene|Augmented family]] | |||
* [[Opossum]] (+28/27) → [[Trienstonic clan #Opossum|Trienstonic clan]] | |||
* [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] (+36/35) → [[Diminished family #Septimal diminished|Diminished family]] | * [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] (+36/35) → [[Diminished family #Septimal diminished|Diminished family]] | ||
* [[Wollemia]] (+2240/2187) → [[Tetracot family #Wollemia|Tetracot family]] | |||
* [[Muggles]] (+525/512) → [[Magic family #Muggles|Magic family]] | |||
* ''[[Passionate]]'' (+131072/127575) → [[Passion family #Passionate|Passion family]] | |||
* ''[[Ripple]]'' (+405/392) → [[Ripple family #Septimal ripple|Ripple family]] | |||
* [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]] | * [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]] | ||
* [[Sensi]] (+245/243), [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]] | * [[Sensi]] (+245/243), [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]] | ||
* ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]] | * ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]] | ||
* ''[[Worschmidt]]'' (+33075/32768) → [[Würschmidt family #Worschmidt|Würschmidt family]] | * ''[[Worschmidt]]'' (+33075/32768) → [[Würschmidt family #Worschmidt|Würschmidt family]] | ||
* [[Valentine]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Valentine|Gamelismic clan]] | |||
* ''[[Muscogee]]'' (+33756345/33554432) → [[Mabila family #Muscogee|Mabila family]] | |||
* ''[[Thuja]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Thuja|Buzzardsmic clan]] | * ''[[Thuja]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Thuja|Buzzardsmic clan]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Paraguay]]'' (+12005/11664) → [[Parakleismic family #Paraguay|Parakleismic family]] | ||
* ''[[Vishnean]]'' (+540225/524288) → [[ | * ''[[Diton]]'' (+8751645/8388608) → [[Ditonmic family #Diton|Ditonmic family]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Vishnean]]'' (+540225/524288) → [[Vishnu family #Vishnean|Vishnu family]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Bisemidim]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Bisemidim|Stearnsmic clan]] | ||
* ''[[Coblack]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Trisedodge family #Coblack|Trisedodge family]] | |||
Considered below are myna, nusecond, oolong, vines, kumonga, cypress | Considered below are myna, nusecond, oolong, vines, kumonga, cypress, casablanca, amigo, supersensi, and cobalt, sorted by increasing [[badness]]. | ||
Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} (126/125)⋅(12/7)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord | Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} (126/125)⋅(12/7)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. | ||
== Myna == | == Myna == | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 243/242 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 243/242 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 196/195 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 196/195 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 5 | 0 10 9 7 25 -5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 78/77, 91/90, 126/125, 176/175 | Comma list: 78/77, 91/90, 126/125, 176/175 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -2 | 0 10 9 7 25 22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 126/125, 243/242 | Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 126/125, 243/242 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 26 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 385/384 | Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 385/384 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 5 | 0 10 9 7 -6 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 1728/1715 | Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 1728/1715 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 4 | 0 10 9 7 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Nusecond]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Nusecond]].'' | ||
Nusecond tempers out [[2430/2401]] and [[16875/16807]] in addition to 126/125, and may be described as {{nowrap| 31 & | Nusecond tempers out [[2430/2401]] and [[16875/16807]] in addition to 126/125, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 39d }} temperament. It has a neutral second generator of [[49/45]], two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. Note that in the data below, the generator is its [[octave complement]] since eleven such generators [[octave reduction|octave reduced]] give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]; its [[ploidacot]] is thus theta-hendecacot. | ||
[[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view. | [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view. | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 | 0 11 13 17 12 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 -5 | 0 11 13 17 12 10 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 | 0 17 18 20 56 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 0 | 0 17 18 20 56 5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376 | Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -1 1 3 9 | 0 8 7 5 -4 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384 | Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -1 1 3 9 10 | 0 8 7 5 -4 -5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== Xenial == | == Xenial == | ||
{{Main| Xenial }} | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Xenial]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Xenial]].'' | ||
Named by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in 2026, xenial may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 70 }} temperament, splitting the [[8/3|perfect eleventh]] into nine equal parts, each for ~[[10/9]]. Equivalently, a stack of nine [[9/5]]s is equated with the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] above 7 [[octave]]s, so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is zeta-enneacot, and from this it derives its name. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0095{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1532{{c}} | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0095{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1532{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.010 -1.634 +3.176 -1.009 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1456{{c}} | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1456{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.644 +3.162 -1.021 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 70, 89 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }} | ||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.13 | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.13 | ||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 16384/16335 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 | 0 9 17 33 -22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6137{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.8717{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1915{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 2.31 | |||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 729/728 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8559{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0911{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2102{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.98 | |||
=== 17-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6970{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9792{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2323{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 2.06 | |||
=== 19-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 171/170, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7741{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0334{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2230{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 2.03 | |||
=== 23-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 | |||
Comma list: 126/125, 162/161, 169/168, 171/170, 208/207, 221/220, 231/230 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 2 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6628{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9415{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2245{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.93 | |||
== Kumonga == | == Kumonga == | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 | 0 13 9 1 19 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175 | Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 -2 | 0 13 9 1 19 7 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.19 | Badness (Sintel): 1.19 | ||
== Cypress == | == Cypress == | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242 | Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 | 0 12 17 27 30 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242 | Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 -10 | 0 12 17 27 30 25 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401 | Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 3 | 0 19 14 4 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401 | Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 3 1 | 0 19 14 4 1 6 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 | 0 19 14 4 32 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 15 | 0 19 14 4 32 -25 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 1 | 0 19 14 4 32 6 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 16384/16335 | Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 16384/16335 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 2 9 9 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 176/175, 364/363 | Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 176/175, 364/363 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 2 9 9 5 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 -4 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.27 | Badness (Sintel): 1.27 | ||
== Supersensi == | == Supersensi == | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 864/847 | Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 864/847 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 | 0 15 17 21 12 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143 | Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 0 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 11 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 21609/21296 | Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 21609/21296 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 | 0 1 1 1 2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 21609/21296 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 21609/21296 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 189/187, 196/195, 1452/1445 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 189/187, 196/195, 1452/1445 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 171/170, 189/187, 196/195, 969/968 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 171/170, 189/187, 196/195, 969/968 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 99 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 221/220, 12005/11968 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 221/220, 12005/11968 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 210/209, 221/220, 1088/1083 | Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 210/209, 221/220, 1088/1083 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 72 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 975/968 | Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 975/968 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 57 | 0 1 1 1 2 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
[[Category:Starling temperaments| ]] <!-- main article --> | |||
[[Category:Temperament collections]] | [[Category:Temperament collections]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]] | ||