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== Innate comma chord ==
== Innate comma chord ==
An '''innate comma chord''', proposed by [[Kite Giedraitis]], is the type of chord that cannot be mapped to just intonation in a given prime limit and odd limit. However, instead of specifying the targeted JI ratios as in an [[#Essentially_tempered_dyadic_chord|essentially tempered chord]], an innate comma chord describes only the general chord shape: the [[mapped interval]] representations or the [[interval span|sizes]] of its constituent intervals. For example, the [[augmented triad]] in 5-limit JI is an innate comma chord below the 25-odd-limit, because it is impossible to tune all three major thirds (in the four-note chord doubling the root up an octave) to [[5/4]] or any other 5-limit interval with odd limit below 25: the innate comma here is 128/125 (41¢). In practice, it might be sung or played justly but with a large odd limit (containing [[wolf interval]]s): for example, 1–5/4–8/5–2, or 1–5/4–25/16–2 (or even 1–5/4–25/16–125/64). Or it might be tempered, e.g. in 12edo as 0¢–400¢–800¢–1200¢. In 7-limit JI, one of the major thirds can be tuned to 9/7, reducing the innate comma to 225/224 (only 8¢). This comma can be distributed among the three thirds, tempering each by only a few cents, which is usually close enough to be acceptable. In 11-limit JI, the augmented chord is not an innate comma chord, because it can be tuned justly as 7:9:11:14, a low enough odd limit to "ring". (However, it is debatable whether this chord qualifies as an augmented triad, because the middle [[11/9]] interval is a neutral third rather than a major third.)
An '''innate comma chord''', proposed by [[Kite Giedraitis]], is the type of chord that cannot be mapped to just intonation in a given prime limit and odd limit. However, instead of specifying the targeted JI ratios as in an [[#Essentially tempered dyadic chord|essentially tempered chord]], an innate comma chord describes only the general chord shape: the [[mapped interval]] representations or the [[interval span|sizes]] of its constituent intervals.  
 
For example, the [[augmented triad]] in 5-limit JI is an innate comma chord below the 25-odd-limit, because it is impossible to tune all three major thirds (in the four-note chord doubling the root up an octave) to [[5/4]] or any other 5-limit interval with odd limit below 25: the innate comma here is 128/125 (41¢). In practice, it might be sung or played justly but with a large odd limit (containing [[wolf interval]]s): for example, 1–5/4–8/5–2, or 1–5/4–25/16–2 (or even 1–5/4–25/16–125/64). Or it might be tempered, e.g. in 12edo as 0¢–400¢–800¢–1200¢. In 7-limit JI, one of the major thirds can be tuned to 9/7, reducing the innate comma to 225/224 (only 8¢). This comma can be distributed among the three thirds, tempering each by only a few cents, which is usually close enough to be acceptable. In 11-limit JI, the augmented chord is not an innate comma chord, because it can be tuned justly as 7:9:11:14, a low enough odd limit to "ring". (However, it is debatable whether this chord qualifies as an augmented triad, because the middle [[11/9]] interval is a neutral third rather than a major third.)


== Anomalous saturated suspension ==
== Anomalous saturated suspension ==
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== List of essentially tempered dyadic chords ==
== List of essentially tempered dyadic chords ==
Here are some pages on certain essentially tempered dyadic chords, sorted by the lowest odd limit in which they are available. See [[Dyadic chord/Pattern of essentially tempered chords]] for some notable abstract chord patterns.  
Here are some pages on certain essentially tempered dyadic chords, sorted by the lowest odd limit in which they are available (<span style="background-color:#D4D4D4">shaded rows</span> mark [[octave-splitting comma]] chords, which are induced by octave-splitting commas). See [[Dyadic chord/Pattern of essentially tempered chords]] for some notable abstract chord patterns.  
 
=== 5-odd-limit ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Chords !! Associated Temperament !! Associated Commas
|-
| bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Augmented triad]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Augmented (temperament)|Augmented]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[128/125]]
|}


=== 7-odd-limit ===
=== 7-odd-limit ===
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|-
|-
! Chords !! Associated temperament !! Associated commas
! Chords !! Associated temperament !! Associated commas
|-
| bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Jubilismic chords]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Jubilismic]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[50/49]]
|-
|-
| [[Archytas chords]] || [[Archytas]] || [[64/63]]
| [[Archytas chords]] || [[Archytas]] || [[64/63]]
|-
|-
| [[Starling chords]] || [[Starling]] || [[126/125]]
| [[Starling chords]] || [[Starling]] || [[126/125]]
|-
| bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[5edo|Blackwood pentad]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Blackwood]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[28/27]], [[49/48]]
|-
| bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Diminished seventh chord]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[36/35]], [[50/49]]
|}
|}


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| [[Pentacircle chords]] || [[Pentacircle]] || [[896/891]]
| [[Pentacircle chords]] || [[Pentacircle]] || [[896/891]]
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| bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Jubilismic chords|Undecimal jubilismic chords]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[Jubilismic family|Undecimal jubilismic]] || bgcolor="#D4D4D4" | [[50/49]], [[99/98]]
|-
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| [[Undecimal marvel chords]] || [[Marvel]] || 225/224, 385/384
| [[Undecimal marvel chords]] || [[Marvel]] || 225/224, 385/384
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|-
|-
| [[Marveltwin chords]] || [[Marveltwin]] || [[325/324]]
| [[Marveltwin chords]] || [[Marveltwin]] || [[325/324]]
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| [[Sooty fox chords]] || [[Sooty fox]] || [[343/338]]
|-
|-
| [[Ratwolfsmic chords]] || [[Ratwolfsmic]] || [[351/350]]
| [[Ratwolfsmic chords]] || [[Ratwolfsmic]] || [[351/350]]
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| [[Jacobin chords]] || [[The Jacobins|Jacobin]] || [[6656/6655]]
| [[Jacobin chords]] || [[The Jacobins|Jacobin]] || [[6656/6655]]
|}
== List of innate comma chords ==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Chords !! Associated Temperament !! Associated Commas
|-
| [[Jubilismic chords]] || [[Jubilismic]] || [[50/49]]
|-
| [[Diminished seventh chord]] || [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] || [[36/35]], [[50/49]]
|-
| [[Augmented triad]] || [[Augmented (temperament)|Augmented]] || [[128/125]]
|}
|}