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:** In "I Made A Gross Mistake" I used a 27-tone scale, the 3/2 approximation and the 5/4 approximation are rather bad (with 722.213 cents and 366.136 cents respectively). It sounds like I used a major scale, the intervals I gravitated to, were (in cents) 91.534, 173.009, 366.136, 447.611, 722.212 (which changes to 732.272 cents in the middle of the song for whatever reason in the strings, I guess I didn't realize that I made a mistake at that point), 905.281, 1200.000. Plus passing tones: 183.068, 356.077, 457.670, 539.145, 549.204, 630.679, 640.738, 1006.873, 1088.349, 1098.407. I tried to use a major scale, the underlying chords are C A Dm.

:** In "Gross Pattern" I used a 13-tone scale, so the approximation of 3/2 is even worse at 742.337 cents, the approximation of 5/4 stays the same at 366.130 cents. Plus I wrote the piece in C minor which the superminor third at 274.598 cents. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 14:06, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

:* Tibrepyt EP: Both scales use less than 75 notes, so they could be interpreted as a subset of 75edo. So, I used 75edo's interval table and xen-calc for the interval analysis.

:** In "sleeping as we don't know", I used the chord progression F C Eb Bb Db Ab G C (approximately, for my ears the piece sounds like its in F# major). The intervals I used (if I put C in the center which I stupidly did) are (in cents plus explanation): 128 (14/13; 75edo's downmid 2nd), 208 (35/31; 75edo's major second), 336 (17/14; 75edo's downmid third), 416 (75edo's and pythagorean major third), 544 (26/19 or 37/27; 75edo's downmid fourth), 704 (generator), 832 (21/13 or 34/21; 75edo's downmid sixth), 912 (75edo's sixth), 1040 (31/17; 75edo's upminor seventh), 1120 (75edo's major seventh), 1200 (octave)

:** In "Stumbling Over Mystery" I gravitated towards following intervals (in cents plus explanation): 384 (5/4), 704 (generator), the other chord is just 48 cents (or a quartertone) upwards. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 12:44, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

:* Helayo EP: The Helayo scale is actually a hemimeantone scale with some extensions (I am not an expert on color names), I just abbreviated the name badly.

:** In "way too random partying" I just used a major scale with 6/5 and 16/11 as passing tones. The MOS scale had 19 notes, so it also could be interpreted as detuned 19edo.

:** In "In The Black Hole" I used the scale 13/12 9/8 7/6 4/3 65/48 7/5 3/2 5/3 21/13 20/11 15/8 64/33 2/1. The MOS scale had 24 notes.

:** In "Happy Apocalypse!" the MOS scale had 14 notes. I used the scale 33/32 16/15 15/13 6/5 5/4 4/3 18/13 3/2 8/5 16/9 24/13 2/1. Basically a minor scale with 11- and 13-limit extensions. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:23, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

:* Edson EP:

:** In "Silent Silence" I used a 17-tone scale, which could be interpreted as some detuning of 29edo. Since Edson is related to Pele and Andromeda, I don't remember what scale I was using. Plus I don't understand the fractions in the subgroup, so I can't tell which intervals I used.

:** In "you have to run!" I used a 29-tone scale, so it can be interpreted as detuned 29edo. Also here I unfortunately can't say which intervals I was using. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:36, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

::Thanks! I understand that this may be hard so take your time, I can wait for some days. You gave me just what I wanted to know about the Gross Temperament EP, so if you can write more answers like this about the four other EPs this will be great! [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 14:44, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

::I'm a little confused about the haleyo EP. How did you have access to these 11-limit intervals in MOS scales with 24 or less notes? Did you a different mapping for 11 which is not the one in the [[Meantone family#Hemimeantone]] paragraph? [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 19:40, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

:::I don't know if my approximations were wrong, that would be my best guess. I don't know if you have better fitting approximations than me, the scala files are on the wiki, so you can take a look for yourself if you like :) [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:07, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

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 :** In "I Made A Gross Mistake" I used a 27-tone scale, the 3/2 approximation and the 5/4 approximation are rather bad (with 722.213 cents and 366.136 cents respectively). It sounds like I used a major scale, the intervals I gravitated to, were (in cents) 91.534, 173.009, 366.136, 447.611, 722.212 (which changes to 732.272 cents in the middle of the song for whatever reason in the strings, I guess I didn't realize that I made a mistake at that point), 905.281, 1200.000. Plus passing tones: 183.068, 356.077, 457.670, 539.145, 549.204, 630.679, 640.738, 1006.873, 1088.349, 1098.407. I tried to use a major scale, the underlying chords are C A Dm.
 :** In "Gross Pattern" I used a 13-tone scale, so the approximation of 3/2 is even worse at 742.337 cents, the approximation of 5/4 stays the same at 366.130 cents. Plus I wrote the piece in C minor which the superminor third at 274.598 cents. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 14:06, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
+:* Tibrepyt EP: Both scales use less than 75 notes, so they could be interpreted as a subset of 75edo. So, I used 75edo's interval table and xen-calc for the interval analysis.
+:** In "sleeping as we don't know", I used the chord progression F C Eb Bb Db Ab G C (approximately, for my ears the piece sounds like its in F# major). The intervals I used (if I put C in the center which I stupidly did) are (in cents plus explanation): 128 (14/13; 75edo's downmid 2nd), 208 (35/31; 75edo's major second), 336 (17/14; 75edo's downmid third), 416 (75edo's and pythagorean major third), 544 (26/19 or 37/27; 75edo's downmid fourth), 704 (generator), 832 (21/13 or 34/21; 75edo's downmid sixth), 912 (75edo's sixth), 1040 (31/17; 75edo's upminor seventh), 1120 (75edo's major seventh), 1200 (octave)
+:** In "Stumbling Over Mystery" I gravitated towards following intervals (in cents plus explanation): 384 (5/4), 704 (generator), the other chord is just 48 cents (or a quartertone) upwards. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 12:44, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
+:* Helayo EP: The Helayo scale is actually a hemimeantone scale with some extensions (I am not an expert on color names), I just abbreviated the name badly.
+:** In "way too random partying" I just used a major scale with 6/5 and 16/11 as passing tones. The MOS scale had 19 notes, so it also could be interpreted as detuned 19edo.
+:** In "In The Black Hole" I used the scale 13/12 9/8 7/6 4/3 65/48 7/5 3/2 5/3 21/13 20/11 15/8 64/33 2/1. The MOS scale had 24 notes.
+:** In "Happy Apocalypse!" the MOS scale had 14 notes. I used the scale 33/32 16/15 15/13 6/5 5/4 4/3 18/13 3/2 8/5 16/9 24/13 2/1. Basically a minor scale with 11- and 13-limit extensions. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:23, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
+:* Edson EP:
+:** In "Silent Silence" I used a 17-tone scale, which could be interpreted as some detuning of 29edo. Since Edson is related to Pele and Andromeda, I don't remember what scale I was using. Plus I don't understand the fractions in the subgroup, so I can't tell which intervals I used.
+:** In "you have to run!" I used a 29-tone scale, so it can be interpreted as detuned 29edo. Also here I unfortunately can't say which intervals I was using. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:36, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
 ::Thanks! I understand that this may be hard so take your time, I can wait for some days. You gave me just what I wanted to know about the Gross Temperament EP, so if you can write more answers like this about the four other EPs this will be great! [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 14:44, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
+::I'm a little confused about the haleyo EP. How did you have access to these 11-limit intervals in MOS scales with 24 or less notes? Did you a different mapping for 11 which is not the one in the [[Meantone family#Hemimeantone]] paragraph? [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 19:40, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
+:::I don't know if my approximations were wrong, that would be my best guess. I don't know if you have better fitting approximations than me, the scala files are on the wiki, so you can take a look for yourself if you like :) [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 15:07, 1 March 2026 (UTC)