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=== The Chroma Component ===
=== The Chroma Component ===


The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one syntonic comma. We therefore define chroma ''c'', measured in syntonic commas:
The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one apotome. We therefore define chroma ''c'', measured in apotomes:


:<math>\left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c</math>
:<math>\left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c</math>

Latest revision as of 19:15, 20 April 2026

This is a machine translation of the following article created by Moture, with some extra proposals down below.

Limitations of Existing Systems and Motivation

A typical FJS notation consists of three parts:

  1. The accidental (d, m, P, M, A, etc.) describing the alteration;
  2. The nominal degree number;
  3. Superscripts/subscripts that describe otonalities/utonality involving primes 5 and higher.

The limitation of standard FJS is that it cannot intuitively describe intervals such as “half a perfect fifth.” For example, 11/9 is very close to half a perfect fifth, yet FJS notates it as m311 (a minor third raised by the 11-limit comma), which can feel counter-intuitive. To address this, NFJS was proposed, introducing “n” for neutral intervals and additional symbols like sA, sd for half-sharps/flats, neutral thirds, etc.

Even NFJS is still insufficient for cases such as “half a perfect fourth,” “one-third of a perfect fifth,” or treating 7/4 as functionally lying between a sixth and a seventh. The core purpose of this notation is to elegantly describe these subtle fractional and intermediate relationships.

Re-analysis of FJS

The Degree (Nominal) Component

Octave equivalence holds, and the additive property remains unchanged: second + second = third, etc. The most distinctive feature of the degree system is that there are seven degrees per octave — this strongly suggests 7-EDO. We therefore define the degree span d, where the displayed nominal degree is d+1, and the generating ratio for the pure degree is [math]\displaystyle{ 2^{d/7} }[/math].

  • d = 0 → nominal degree 1 (unison)
  • d = 1 → nominal degree 2 (second)
  • d = 2 → nominal degree 3 (third)
  • … and so on.

The Chroma Component

The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one apotome. We therefore define chroma c, measured in apotomes:

[math]\displaystyle{ \left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c }[/math]
  • c = 0 → P1 (1/1)
  • c = +1 → A1 (2187/2048)
  • c = −1 → d1 (2048/2187)
  • etc.

Connection and Extension to FJS

Any interval ratio is expressed as

[math]\displaystyle{ R = 2^{d/7} \cdot \left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c }[/math]

Given a ratio in 3-limit form [math]\displaystyle{ R = 2^x \cdot 3^y }[/math], we solve:

[math]\displaystyle{ \begin{cases} x = \dfrac{d}{7} - 11c \\ y = 7c \end{cases} \implies c = \frac{y}{7},\quad d = 7x + 11y }[/math]

Example: M2 = 9/8 = [math]\displaystyle{ 2^{-3} \cdot 3^{2} }[/math]

[math]\displaystyle{ c = \frac{2}{7},\quad d = 7(-3) + 11(2) = 1 }[/math]

→ second (d+1 = 2) with chroma [math]\displaystyle{ c = +\frac{2}{7} }[/math]

Natural Interval Chroma Table

Nominal Interval Ratio x y Degree Chroma
1 P1 1/1 0 0 0 0
2 m2 256/243 8 −5 1 −5/7
2 M2 9/8 −3 2 1 +2/7
3 m3 32/27 5 −3 2 −3/7
3 M3 81/64 −6 4 2 +4/7
4 P4 4/3 2 −1 3 −1/7
4 A4 729/512 −9 6 3 +6/7
5 d5 1024/729 10 −6 4 −6/7
5 P5 3/2 −1 1 4 +1/7
6 m6 128/81 7 −4 5 −4/7
6 M6 27/16 −4 3 5 +3/7
7 m7 16/9 4 −2 6 −2/7
7 M7 243/128 −5 5 6 +5/7

Baseline Chroma (Brightness) and Naming Rules

Baseline Chroma for Integer Degrees

Two standards:

  • P-standard (degrees 1, 4, 5 and octave equivalents): baseline chroma = chroma of the perfect interval.
  • n-standard (degrees 2, 3, 6, 7 and octave equivalents): baseline chroma = arithmetic mean of minor and major chroma.
Degree Standard Baseline chroma (calculation) Value
1 P1 [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P1} = 0 }[/math] 0
2 n2 [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-5/7 + 2/7}{2} = -3/14 }[/math] −3/14
3 n3 [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-3/7 + 4/7}{2} = +1/14 }[/math] +1/14
4 P4 [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P4} = -1/7 }[/math] −1/7
5 P5 [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P5} = +1/7 }[/math] +1/7
6 n6 [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-4/7 + 3/7}{2} = -1/14 }[/math] −1/14
7 n7 [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-2/7 + 5/7}{2} = +3/14 }[/math] +3/14

Octave rule: adding 7n to the degree keeps the same standard (P1, P8, P15 … all use P-standard; n2, n9, n16 … all use n-standard).

Naming Rules Based on Chroma Deviation

P-standard degrees (1, 4, 5 etc.)

  • c = baseline → P
  • c > baseline → xA (x = c − baseline)
  • c < baseline → xd (x = baseline − c)
  • x = 1 may omit the number; x = 3 may be written AAA or ddd.

n-standard degrees (2, 3, 6, 7 etc. and all fractional degrees)

  • c = baseline → n
  • 0 < Δc ≤ 0.5 (brighter) → (2Δc)M
  • 0 < |Δc| ≤ 0.5 (darker) → (2|Δc|)m
  • Δc > 0.5 → (Δc − 0.5)A
  • c| > 0.5 (darker) → (|Δc| − 0.5)d

Coefficient 1 may omit the number; larger integers may be stacked (AAA, mm, etc.).

Baseline Chroma for Non-Integer (Fractional) Degrees

For a fractional degree p/q, the baseline is the distance-weighted arithmetic mean of the two nearest integer-degree baselines:

[math]\displaystyle{ c_{\text{baseline}} = \frac{(R - p/q)c_L + (p/q - L)c_R}{R - L} }[/math]

All fractional degrees use the n-standard naming rules.

Example: degree 4/3 ≈ 1.333

Adjacent: L = 1 (c = 0), R = 2 (c = −3/14) Weights: wL = 2 − 4/3 = 2/3, wR = 4/3 − 1 = 1/3 → baseline chroma = −1/14 → baseline name n4/3

Negative Degrees

When d+1 < 1, three conventions (“flavours”):

  1. Invert the interval and prefix the degree with “−” (e.g. downward d-2).
  2. Prefix the entire name with “−” (e.g. −d2 or −(d2)).
  3. Octave-shift upward until the nominal is 1–7 and annotate octave offset (lo, lolo, hi, hihi or “−1 oct”, “+2 oct”, etc.).

Examples

1. Half perfect fifth [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt{3/2} }[/math]

[math]\displaystyle{ x = -0.5,\ y = 0.5 \to c = 1/14,\ d = 2 }[/math] → nominal degree 3, baseline +1/14 → exactly neutral → n3

2. Half perfect fourth [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt{4/3} }[/math]

[math]\displaystyle{ x = 1,\ y = -0.5 \to c = -1/14,\ d = 1.5 }[/math] → nominal degree 2.5  
Baseline (interpolated) = −1/14 → exactly neutral → n2.5

3. Porcupine trichord third [math]\displaystyle{ (4/3)^{1/3} }[/math]

[math]\displaystyle{ x = 2/3,\ y = -1/3 \to c = -1/21,\ d = 1 }[/math] → nominal degree 2  
Baseline n2 = −3/14  
Δc = +1/6 (brighter, ≤0.5) → coefficient 2×(1/6) = 1/3 → ⅓M2 or (1/3)M2

This system thus allows intuitive, continuous naming of any 3-limit interval (including fractional degrees and sub-major/minor shadings) while remaining fully compatible with standard FJS for ordinary just intervals.

––– Everything below this point is not in the original document; Eufalesio's addition. ––––

Formal Commas

Below is the nomenclature and mathematical identity of all primes' formal commas up to 31, with radius of tolerance = 1/2d2 (Neutral FJS). Everything is the same as

Prime Formal Comma EFJS Fifth shift
5 80/81 M3^5 +4
7 63/64 m7^7 -2
11 (242/243)^1/2 1/2A4^11 +2.5
13 (507/512)^1/2 n6^13 -0.5
17 4131/4096 m2^17 -5
19 513/512 m3^19 -3
23 736/729 A4^23 +6
29 sqrt(841/864) n7^29 +1.5
31 sqrt(2101707/2097152) 1/2d8^31 -3.5

Irrational intervals

For irrational intervals, such as edosteps, i degrees are used, where i(x) = x-1 steps of 7edo, x being any real number.

Comma stacking is written with parentheses for large numbers or nonintegers; 3125/3072 = -dd2^5(5), sqrt(5/4) = M2^5(1/2).

Below is a table of some examples to which this notation can be taken. Some of these examples are absurd beyond use, but the aim is merely illustrative; to show how far this notation can be taken.

Edosteps Edonoisteps and others
1/1 P1 (81/80)^3/2 P1^5(3/2)
1\7 i2 (64/63)^2 P1^7(2)
5\14 i3.5 Vavoom comma -12d7^5(17)
9\56 i1.125 5\13{3} i(log2(3)35/13) ≈ i5.2672
31\53 i(4+5/53) ≈ i5.0943 1\5{5} i(log2(5)7/5) ≈ i4.2507
18\31 i(4+2/31) ≈ i5.0645 [1/2 -1/5 1/7] i(log2(3)7/5+3.5)^5(1/7) ≈ i4.603
1157\3613 i(2+873/3613) ≈ i3.2416 |-1 4/11 -14/37 23/41 -1/44⟩ i(log2(3)28/11-7)^7(23/41)_5(14/37)_11(1/44) ≈ i2.3581