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The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one | The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one apotome. We therefore define chroma ''c'', measured in apotomes: | ||
:<math>\left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c</math> | :<math>\left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c</math> | ||
Latest revision as of 19:15, 20 April 2026
This is a machine translation of the following article created by Moture, with some extra proposals down below.
Limitations of Existing Systems and Motivation
A typical FJS notation consists of three parts:
- The accidental (d, m, P, M, A, etc.) describing the alteration;
- The nominal degree number;
- Superscripts/subscripts that describe otonalities/utonality involving primes 5 and higher.
The limitation of standard FJS is that it cannot intuitively describe intervals such as “half a perfect fifth.” For example, 11/9 is very close to half a perfect fifth, yet FJS notates it as m311 (a minor third raised by the 11-limit comma), which can feel counter-intuitive. To address this, NFJS was proposed, introducing “n” for neutral intervals and additional symbols like sA, sd for half-sharps/flats, neutral thirds, etc.
Even NFJS is still insufficient for cases such as “half a perfect fourth,” “one-third of a perfect fifth,” or treating 7/4 as functionally lying between a sixth and a seventh. The core purpose of this notation is to elegantly describe these subtle fractional and intermediate relationships.
Re-analysis of FJS
The Degree (Nominal) Component
Octave equivalence holds, and the additive property remains unchanged: second + second = third, etc. The most distinctive feature of the degree system is that there are seven degrees per octave — this strongly suggests 7-EDO. We therefore define the degree span d, where the displayed nominal degree is d+1, and the generating ratio for the pure degree is [math]\displaystyle{ 2^{d/7} }[/math].
- d = 0 → nominal degree 1 (unison)
- d = 1 → nominal degree 2 (second)
- d = 2 → nominal degree 3 (third)
- … and so on.
The Chroma Component
The unit of the accidentals is intimately tied to 2187/2048. Every minor-to-major step, augmented-vs-perfect/major step, and diminished-vs-perfect/minor step differs by exactly one apotome. We therefore define chroma c, measured in apotomes:
- [math]\displaystyle{ \left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c }[/math]
- c = 0 → P1 (1/1)
- c = +1 → A1 (2187/2048)
- c = −1 → d1 (2048/2187)
- etc.
Connection and Extension to FJS
Any interval ratio is expressed as
- [math]\displaystyle{ R = 2^{d/7} \cdot \left(\frac{2187}{2048}\right)^c }[/math]
Given a ratio in 3-limit form [math]\displaystyle{ R = 2^x \cdot 3^y }[/math], we solve:
- [math]\displaystyle{ \begin{cases} x = \dfrac{d}{7} - 11c \\ y = 7c \end{cases} \implies c = \frac{y}{7},\quad d = 7x + 11y }[/math]
Example: M2 = 9/8 = [math]\displaystyle{ 2^{-3} \cdot 3^{2} }[/math]
- [math]\displaystyle{ c = \frac{2}{7},\quad d = 7(-3) + 11(2) = 1 }[/math]
→ second (d+1 = 2) with chroma [math]\displaystyle{ c = +\frac{2}{7} }[/math]
Natural Interval Chroma Table
| Nominal | Interval | Ratio | x | y | Degree | Chroma |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | P1 | 1/1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2 | m2 | 256/243 | 8 | −5 | 1 | −5/7 |
| 2 | M2 | 9/8 | −3 | 2 | 1 | +2/7 |
| 3 | m3 | 32/27 | 5 | −3 | 2 | −3/7 |
| 3 | M3 | 81/64 | −6 | 4 | 2 | +4/7 |
| 4 | P4 | 4/3 | 2 | −1 | 3 | −1/7 |
| 4 | A4 | 729/512 | −9 | 6 | 3 | +6/7 |
| 5 | d5 | 1024/729 | 10 | −6 | 4 | −6/7 |
| 5 | P5 | 3/2 | −1 | 1 | 4 | +1/7 |
| 6 | m6 | 128/81 | 7 | −4 | 5 | −4/7 |
| 6 | M6 | 27/16 | −4 | 3 | 5 | +3/7 |
| 7 | m7 | 16/9 | 4 | −2 | 6 | −2/7 |
| 7 | M7 | 243/128 | −5 | 5 | 6 | +5/7 |
Baseline Chroma (Brightness) and Naming Rules
Baseline Chroma for Integer Degrees
Two standards:
- P-standard (degrees 1, 4, 5 and octave equivalents): baseline chroma = chroma of the perfect interval.
- n-standard (degrees 2, 3, 6, 7 and octave equivalents): baseline chroma = arithmetic mean of minor and major chroma.
| Degree | Standard | Baseline chroma (calculation) | Value |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | P1 | [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P1} = 0 }[/math] | 0 |
| 2 | n2 | [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-5/7 + 2/7}{2} = -3/14 }[/math] | −3/14 |
| 3 | n3 | [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-3/7 + 4/7}{2} = +1/14 }[/math] | +1/14 |
| 4 | P4 | [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P4} = -1/7 }[/math] | −1/7 |
| 5 | P5 | [math]\displaystyle{ c_{P5} = +1/7 }[/math] | +1/7 |
| 6 | n6 | [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-4/7 + 3/7}{2} = -1/14 }[/math] | −1/14 |
| 7 | n7 | [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{-2/7 + 5/7}{2} = +3/14 }[/math] | +3/14 |
Octave rule: adding 7n to the degree keeps the same standard (P1, P8, P15 … all use P-standard; n2, n9, n16 … all use n-standard).
Naming Rules Based on Chroma Deviation
P-standard degrees (1, 4, 5 etc.)
- c = baseline → P
- c > baseline → xA (x = c − baseline)
- c < baseline → xd (x = baseline − c)
- x = 1 may omit the number; x = 3 may be written AAA or ddd.
n-standard degrees (2, 3, 6, 7 etc. and all fractional degrees)
- c = baseline → n
- 0 < Δc ≤ 0.5 (brighter) → (2Δc)M
- 0 < |Δc| ≤ 0.5 (darker) → (2|Δc|)m
- Δc > 0.5 → (Δc − 0.5)A
- |Δc| > 0.5 (darker) → (|Δc| − 0.5)d
Coefficient 1 may omit the number; larger integers may be stacked (AAA, mm, etc.).
Baseline Chroma for Non-Integer (Fractional) Degrees
For a fractional degree p/q, the baseline is the distance-weighted arithmetic mean of the two nearest integer-degree baselines:
- [math]\displaystyle{ c_{\text{baseline}} = \frac{(R - p/q)c_L + (p/q - L)c_R}{R - L} }[/math]
All fractional degrees use the n-standard naming rules.
Example: degree 4/3 ≈ 1.333
Adjacent: L = 1 (c = 0), R = 2 (c = −3/14) Weights: wL = 2 − 4/3 = 2/3, wR = 4/3 − 1 = 1/3 → baseline chroma = −1/14 → baseline name n4/3
Negative Degrees
When d+1 < 1, three conventions (“flavours”):
- Invert the interval and prefix the degree with “−” (e.g. downward d-2).
- Prefix the entire name with “−” (e.g. −d2 or −(d2)).
- Octave-shift upward until the nominal is 1–7 and annotate octave offset (lo, lolo, hi, hihi or “−1 oct”, “+2 oct”, etc.).
Examples
1. Half perfect fifth [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt{3/2} }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ x = -0.5,\ y = 0.5 \to c = 1/14,\ d = 2 }[/math] → nominal degree 3, baseline +1/14 → exactly neutral → n3
2. Half perfect fourth [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt{4/3} }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ x = 1,\ y = -0.5 \to c = -1/14,\ d = 1.5 }[/math] → nominal degree 2.5
Baseline (interpolated) = −1/14 → exactly neutral → n2.5
3. Porcupine trichord third [math]\displaystyle{ (4/3)^{1/3} }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ x = 2/3,\ y = -1/3 \to c = -1/21,\ d = 1 }[/math] → nominal degree 2
Baseline n2 = −3/14
Δc = +1/6 (brighter, ≤0.5) → coefficient 2×(1/6) = 1/3 → ⅓M2 or (1/3)M2
This system thus allows intuitive, continuous naming of any 3-limit interval (including fractional degrees and sub-major/minor shadings) while remaining fully compatible with standard FJS for ordinary just intervals.
––– Everything below this point is not in the original document; Eufalesio's addition. ––––
Formal Commas
Below is the nomenclature and mathematical identity of all primes' formal commas up to 31, with radius of tolerance = 1/2d2 (Neutral FJS). Everything is the same as
| Prime | Formal Comma | EFJS | Fifth shift |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | 80/81 | M3^5 | +4 |
| 7 | 63/64 | m7^7 | -2 |
| 11 | (242/243)^1/2 | 1/2A4^11 | +2.5 |
| 13 | (507/512)^1/2 | n6^13 | -0.5 |
| 17 | 4131/4096 | m2^17 | -5 |
| 19 | 513/512 | m3^19 | -3 |
| 23 | 736/729 | A4^23 | +6 |
| 29 | sqrt(841/864) | n7^29 | +1.5 |
| 31 | sqrt(2101707/2097152) | 1/2d8^31 | -3.5 |
Irrational intervals
For irrational intervals, such as edosteps, i degrees are used, where i(x) = x-1 steps of 7edo, x being any real number.
Comma stacking is written with parentheses for large numbers or nonintegers; 3125/3072 = -dd2^5(5), sqrt(5/4) = M2^5(1/2).
Below is a table of some examples to which this notation can be taken. Some of these examples are absurd beyond use, but the aim is merely illustrative; to show how far this notation can be taken.
| Edosteps | Edonoisteps and others | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| 1/1 | P1 | (81/80)^3/2 | P1^5(3/2) |
| 1\7 | i2 | (64/63)^2 | P1^7(2) |
| 5\14 | i3.5 | Vavoom comma | -12d7^5(17) |
| 9\56 | i1.125 | 5\13{3} | i(log2(3)35/13) ≈ i5.2672 |
| 31\53 | i(4+5/53) ≈ i5.0943 | 1\5{5} | i(log2(5)7/5) ≈ i4.2507 |
| 18\31 | i(4+2/31) ≈ i5.0645 | [1/2 -1/5 1/7] | i(log2(3)7/5+3.5)^5(1/7) ≈ i4.603 |
| 1157\3613 | i(2+873/3613) ≈ i3.2416 | |-1 4/11 -14/37 23/41 -1/44⟩ | i(log2(3)28/11-7)^7(23/41)_5(14/37)_11(1/44) ≈ i2.3581 |