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84edo is where the orwell temperament takes its name from, since the generator of [[7/6]] is equal to 19 steps of the edo, referencing the [[Wikipedia: Nineteen Eighty-Four|book 1984]]. Orwell in 84edo comes in two varieties—the 84e val {{val| 84 133 195 236 '''290''' }}, supporting the original orwell, and its [[patent val]] {{val| 84 133 195 236 '''291''' }} supporting [[newspeak]]. 84edo orwell offers [[mos scale]]s of size 9, 13, 22, and 31, of which the 31-note scale is the [[maximal evenness]] scale. | 84edo is where the orwell temperament takes its name from, since the generator of [[7/6]] is equal to 19 steps of the edo, referencing the [[Wikipedia: Nineteen Eighty-Four|book 1984]]. Orwell in 84edo comes in two varieties—the 84e val {{val| 84 133 195 236 '''290''' }}, supporting the original orwell, and its [[patent val]] {{val| 84 133 195 236 '''291''' }} supporting [[newspeak]]. 84edo orwell offers [[mos scale]]s of size 9, 13, 22, and 31, of which the 31-note scale is the [[maximal evenness]] scale. | ||
=== Prime harmonics === | === Prime harmonics === | ||
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| D | | D | ||
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<nowiki | <nowiki/>* As a 2.3.5.7.13.19.23-subgroup temperament | ||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | === Ups and downs notation === | ||
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| 2/1 | | 2/1 | ||
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== Approximation to JI == | |||
=== 15-odd-limit intervals === | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|84}} | |||
=== Higher-limit JI === | |||
84edo has fairly good approximation to higher [[prime harmonic]]s such as [[13/1|13]], [[19/1|19]], [[23/1|23]], [[29/1|29]], [[31/1|31]], 41, 43, 53, 59, 61, 73 and 89, so that it is for its size very performant for much of the 61-limit, with more off primes usually being sharp so that they can cancel opportunistically with other sharp harmonics. In fact, it is [[consistent]] in the no-11 no-17 no-27 no-37 no-47 no-49 no-51 no-55 65-odd-limit excepting only 1 inconsistent pair, 45/43 and 86/45, which are inconsistent by ~0.13{{cent}} (off by ~7.3{{cent}}), offering a truly vast inventory of harmony to draw from that has mostly been unexplored. This is especially true because its approximation powers do not end there: prime 11, due to its simplicity (and thus lesser tuning fidelity), is certainly usable (just causes some inconsistencies), and there are higher primes that are reasonably in-tune too when supported by context. The only missing primes are thus 17, 37, 47, 67, 71, 79 and 83, which except for 17 are all about 6 cents sharp, similar to the sharpness of prime 11, so that it somewhat makes up for these omissions by having a very accurate 22:37:47:67:71:79:83 chord, to which various additions are possible (though usually increasing the error as a result). | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| 2.3.5 | | 2.3.5 | ||
| 78732/78125, 531441/524288 | | 78732/78125, 531441/524288 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 }} | ||
| +0.498 | | +0.498 | ||
| 0.531 | | 0.531 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7 | | 2.3.5.7 | ||
| 225/224, 1728/1715, 78732/78125 | | 225/224, 1728/1715, 78732/78125 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 }} | ||
| +0.141 | | +0.141 | ||
| 0.769 | | 0.769 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.13 | | 2.3.5.7.13 | ||
| 225/224, 351/350, 640/637, 1701/1690 | | 225/224, 351/350, 640/637, 1701/1690 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 311 }} | ||
| −0.013 | | −0.013 | ||
| 0.754 | | 0.754 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.11 | | 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331, 1728/1715 | | 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331, 1728/1715 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 291 }} (84) | ||
| −0.225 | | −0.225 | ||
| 1.003 | | 1.003 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
| 144/143, 225/224, 351/350, 441/440, 975/968 | | 144/143, 225/224, 351/350, 441/440, 975/968 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 291 311 }} (84) | ||
| −0.292 | | −0.292 | ||
| 0.928 | | 0.928 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.11 | | 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 78732/78125 | | 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 78732/78125 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 290 }} (84e) | ||
| +0.601 | | +0.601 | ||
| 1.151 | | 1.151 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
| 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 275/273, 1701/1690 | | 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 275/273, 1701/1690 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 290 311 }} (84e) | ||
| +0.396 | | +0.396 | ||
| 1.146 | | 1.146 | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 19\84 | | 19\84 | ||
| 271. | | 271.4 | ||
| 7/6 | | 7/6 | ||
| [[Orwell]] (84e) / [[newspeak]] (84) | | [[Orwell]] (84e) / [[newspeak]] (84) | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 25\84 | | 25\84 | ||
| 357. | | 357.1 | ||
| 768/625 | | 768/625 | ||
| [[Dodifo]] | | [[Dodifo]] | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 27\84 | | 27\84 | ||
| 385. | | 385.7 | ||
| 5/4 | | 5/4 | ||
| [[Mutt]] | | [[Mutt]] | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 31\84 | | 31\84 | ||
| 442. | | 442.9 | ||
| 125 | | 162/125 | ||
| [[Sensei]] | | [[Sensei]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 41\84 | | 41\84 | ||
| 585. | | 585.7 | ||
| 7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
| [[Merman]] | | [[Merman]] | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 5\84 | | 5\84 | ||
| 71. | | 71.4 | ||
| 25/24 | | 25/24 | ||
| [[Narayana]] | | [[Narayana]] | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 11\84 | | 11\84 | ||
| 157. | | 157.1 | ||
| 35/32 | | 35/32 | ||
| [[Bison]] | | [[Bison]] | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 13\84 | | 13\84 | ||
| 185. | | 185.7 | ||
| 10/9 | | 10/9 | ||
| [[Secant]] | | [[Secant]] | ||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 11\84 | | 11\84 | ||
| 157. | | 157.1 | ||
| 35/32 | | 35/32 | ||
| [[Nessafof]] | | [[Nessafof]] | ||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 5\84 | |||
| 71.4 | |||
| 25/24 | |||
| [[Trivish]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 5\84 | | 5\84 | ||
| | | 14.3 | ||
| | | 81/80 | ||
| [[Absurdity]] | | [[Absurdity]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| | | 1\84 | ||
| | | 14.3 | ||
| | | 126/125 | ||
| [[Compton]] | | [[Compton]] | ||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 2\84 | |||
| 28.6 | |||
| 64/63 | |||
| [[Catler]] (84c) | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| | | 1\84) | ||
| | | 14.3 | ||
| | | 126/125 | ||
| [[Akjayland]] | | [[Akjayland]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 28 | | 28 | ||
| | | 1\84 | ||
| | | 14.3 | ||
| | | 105/104 | ||
| [[Oquatonic]] | | [[Oquatonic]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[ | <nowiki/>* In [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal-generator form]] | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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; [[Bryan Deister]] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sqkxrmwggr0 ''microtonal improvisation in 84edo''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sqkxrmwggr0 ''microtonal improvisation in 84edo''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qu6UIA2NmmQ ''84edo groove''] (2026) | |||
; [[Eliora]] | ; [[Eliora]] | ||