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A '''Minkowski block''' is a particular kind of [[Fokker block]] which tends to be a good candidate for tempering by a particular regular temperament T. Suppose we have a val v supporting T, and the [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|OE seminorm]] on [[Monzos and Interval Space|interval space]] defined from the temperament; that is, the seminorm defined by orthogonal projection in interval space orthogonal to the commas of T and 2, the octave.
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A Minkowski block is a particular kind of [[Fokker blocks|Fokker block]] which tends to be a good candidate form tempering by a particular regular temperament T. Suppose we have a val v supporting T, and the [[http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html|seminorm]] on [[Monzos and Interval Space|interval space]] defined from the temperament; that is, the seminorm defined by orthogonal projection in interval space orthogonal to the commas of T and 2, the octave.


We can find a subgroup of just intonation in which every member of the notes of the temperament, for a particular just tuning, has a unique representative. In that case, the seminorm becomes a norm. The commas of the val v belonging to the subgroup have a unique [[http://www.farcaster.com/papers/sm-thesis/node6.html|Minkowski basis]] in terms of this norm, and we may use these commas, and the reduction of v to the subgroup, to define Fokker blocks in the usual way. The tempering of these blocks by the temperament are the Minkowski blocks. This often but not always includes the [[Hobbits|hobbit]] associated with T and v. </pre></div>
We can find a subspace of interval space in which every note of T has a unique representative, giving a transversal for the temperament in the form of a sublattice of the lattice of intervals T tempers. In that subspace, the seminorm becomes a norm. The commas of v belonging to the transversal sublattice have a unique [http://www.farcaster.com/papers/sm-thesis/node6.html Minkowski basis] in terms of this norm, and we may use these commas to define Fokker blocks in the usual way. The tempering of these blocks by T are the Minkowski blocks, for which the correspondong Fokker blocks are therefore [[transversal]]s. This very often but not always includes the [[hobbit]] associated with T and v, in which case we may call them hobbit blocks.
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== Example ==
A Minkowski block is a particular kind of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Fokker%20blocks"&gt;Fokker block&lt;/a&gt; which tends to be a good candidate form tempering by a particular regular temperament T. Suppose we have a val v supporting T, and the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;seminorm&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space"&gt;interval space&lt;/a&gt; defined from the temperament; that is, the seminorm defined by orthogonal projection in interval space orthogonal to the commas of T and 2, the octave.&lt;br /&gt;
Consider marvel, which is supported by the 11-limit 19et patent val, since it tempers out both 225/224 and 385/384. The transversal sublattice can be taken to be 5-limit JI: every note of marvel has a unique 5-limit JI representative. The 5-limit commas of 19et, in order of the OE seminorm, are 81/80, 4428675/4194304, 273375/262144, 16875/16384, 3125/3072, 15625/15552, 78732/78125... . In terms of the associated 5-limit temperaments, that's meantone, hogzilla, stump, negri, magic, hanson, sensi... . The meantone-hogzilla arena is therefore the arena of the Minkowski blocks for 19-note marvel.
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We can find a subgroup of just intonation in which every member of the notes of the temperament, for a particular just tuning, has a unique representative. In that case, the seminorm becomes a norm. The commas of the val v belonging to the subgroup have a unique &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.farcaster.com/papers/sm-thesis/node6.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Minkowski basis&lt;/a&gt; in terms of this norm, and we may use these commas, and the reduction of v to the subgroup, to define Fokker blocks in the usual way. The tempering of these blocks by the temperament are the Minkowski blocks. This often but not always includes the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Hobbits"&gt;hobbit&lt;/a&gt; associated with T and v.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
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A Minkowski block is a particular kind of Fokker block which tends to be a good candidate for tempering by a particular regular temperament T. Suppose we have a val v supporting T, and the OE seminorm on interval space defined from the temperament; that is, the seminorm defined by orthogonal projection in interval space orthogonal to the commas of T and 2, the octave.

We can find a subspace of interval space in which every note of T has a unique representative, giving a transversal for the temperament in the form of a sublattice of the lattice of intervals T tempers. In that subspace, the seminorm becomes a norm. The commas of v belonging to the transversal sublattice have a unique Minkowski basis in terms of this norm, and we may use these commas to define Fokker blocks in the usual way. The tempering of these blocks by T are the Minkowski blocks, for which the correspondong Fokker blocks are therefore transversals. This very often but not always includes the hobbit associated with T and v, in which case we may call them hobbit blocks.

Example

Consider marvel, which is supported by the 11-limit 19et patent val, since it tempers out both 225/224 and 385/384. The transversal sublattice can be taken to be 5-limit JI: every note of marvel has a unique 5-limit JI representative. The 5-limit commas of 19et, in order of the OE seminorm, are 81/80, 4428675/4194304, 273375/262144, 16875/16384, 3125/3072, 15625/15552, 78732/78125... . In terms of the associated 5-limit temperaments, that's meantone, hogzilla, stump, negri, magic, hanson, sensi... . The meantone-hogzilla arena is therefore the arena of the Minkowski blocks for 19-note marvel.