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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -1 | 0 7 9 }}
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125
: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125


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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
The second comma of the comma list determines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Sensi adds [[126/125]]. Sensei adds [[225/224]]. Warrior adds [[5120/5103]]. These are all strong extensions that use the same period and generator as sensipent.  
The second comma of the comma list determines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Sensi adds [[126/125]]. Sensei adds [[225/224]]. Warrior adds [[5120/5103]]. These are all strong extensions that use the same period and generator as sensipent.  


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Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:  
* ''[[Catafourth]]'' → [[Breedsmic temperaments #Catafourth|Breedsmic temperaments]] (+2401/2400)
* ''[[Catafourth]]'' → [[Breedsmic temperaments #Catafourth|Breedsmic temperaments]] (+2401/2400)
* ''[[Browser]]'' → [[Mirkwai clan #Browser|Mirkwai clan]] (+16875/16807)
* ''[[Browser]]'' → [[Canopic clan #Browser|Canopic clan]] (+16875/16807)


Considered below are sensi, sensei, warrior, bison, subpental, trisensory and heinz.
Considered below are sensi, sensei, warrior, bison, subpental, trisensory and heinz.


=== 2.3.5.31 subgroup ===
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Fascinatingly, essentially the only simple and accurate extension that preserves the occurrence of sensipent's tempered [[5-limit]] structure in such large edos as [[539edo|539]] is the one with prime 31 by interpreting the generator accurately as [[31/24]]~[[40/31]], tempering out [[961/960|S31 = 961/960]], so that the [[31-limit]] quarter-tones [[32/31]] and [[31/30]] are equated, as sensipent splits [[16/15]] into two equal parts. For a less sparse subgroup present in smaller edo tunings like [[111edo]] at the cost of slight accuracy, see the extension to the 2.3.5.11.17.31 subgroup [[#Sensible]].
The generator of sensipent can be accurately interpreted as [[31/24]][[~]][[40/31]], tempering out [[961/960]] ({{S|31}}), so that the [[31-limit]] quartertones [[32/31]] and [[31/30]] are equated, as sensipent splits [[16/15]] into two equal parts, which is important as it is the difference between 5/4 and 4/3 (whose product is 5/3 at 2 gens). This gives the 2.3.5.31-subgroup version of sensipent discussed in [[#Subgroup extensions_2|#Subgroup extensions]]. It is essentially the only simple and accurate extension that preserves sensipent's fine-tempered 5-limit structure.  
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.31
 
Comma list: 961/960, 2511/2500
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 2 | 0 7 9 8 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~31/24
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0154{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0514{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0474{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8, 11c, 19, 46, 65, 344, 409, 474, 539, 604c }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.243
 
=== Sendai ===
{{See also| Sensipent #Sendai interval table }}
 
Sendai is an accurate extension of (2.3.5.31) [[#Sensipent|sensipent]] with primes [[23/16|23]] and [[29/16|29]] found by [[User:VIxen|VIxen]]. It is named after the body of acquis designed to prevent disaster risk and improve civil protection through international cooperation and after the city in Japan of the same name where it was signed (and where an international music competition is held).
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.23.29.31
 
Comma list: 465/464, 576/575, 621/620, 900/899
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 6 -4 2| 0 7 9 -4 24 8 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0782{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0005{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~31/24 = 442.9762{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46j, 65, 149, 363j }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.283
 
=== Sensible ===
{{See also| Sensipent #Sensible interval table }}
 
Sensible is an extension of sensipent with prime 11 of dubious canonicity but significantly higher accuracy than [[sensi]]. It interprets the generator as [[165/128]]~[[128/99]] by tempering out [[8019/8000]] so that [[11/8]] is reached as ([[10/9]])<sup>3</sup>. This extension is very strong as supported by the [[optimal ET sequence]] going very far and as supported by another observation that it also tempers out the [[semiporwellisma]], which is equal to [[961/960|S31]] × [[1024/1023|S32]]<sup>2</sup> (thus forming the S-expression-based comma list). The vanish of the semiporwellisma, a [[lopsided comma]], implies that this temperament equates ([[33/32]])<sup>2</sup> with [[16/15]] as well as that a natural extension to prime 31 exists through {S31, S32}, which we will see is very accurate, but this itself suggests that an extension with prime 17 is reasonably accurate through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] so that a slightly sharp ~[[22/17]] is equated with the generator.
 
The aforementioned extension with prime 17 through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] is equivalent to the one by tempering out [[256/255|S16]] = [[256/255]] = ([[22/17]])/([[165/128]]).
 
Sensible uses the accurate mapping of prime 31 in sensipent, so that the sensible generator serves many roles in subgroup harmony, but it is not ~[[9/7]] or ~[[13/10]] which would incur more damage. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list is {([[256/255|S16]], [[8019/8000|S9/S10]],) [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]], [[961/960|S31]], [[1024/1023|S32]], [[1089/1088|S33]]} implying also tempering out [[496/495]] = S31 × S32 and [[528/527]] = S32 × S33 as well as [[16337/16335]] = S31/S33 = ([[17/15|34/30]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup> = ([[17/15]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup>. A notable [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence is [[157edo]].
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
 
Comma list: 8019/8000, 16384/16335
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 | 0 7 9 -15 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~128/99
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6725{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.0183{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.1341{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 176, 241, 306 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.728
 
==== 2.3.5.11.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17
 
Comma list: 256/255, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~22/17
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5016{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0038{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1878{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.639
 
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23
 
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6207{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0400{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1808{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}


Badness (Sintel): 0.555
This extension can be applied to many other extensions. Note that optimal ET sequences here often omit some [[val]] of [[84edo]], which is a good tuning for interpreting the generator as 31/24~40/31 such that the 24:31:40 is a chord of [0, 1, 2] generator steps, by preferring a flatter fifth as in the 2.3.5.31-subgroup extension, as the 5-limit generator is both complex and relatively high in damage for its complexity.


==== 2.3.5.11.17.23.31 subgroup ====
[[Sensible]] is a less sparse subgroup extension present in edo tunings like [[111edo]] at the cost of a little accuracy. [[Sendai]] is perhaps more accurate (esp. w.r.t. prime 31) but the subgroup is very sparse, only having one prime that sensible doesn't (29). In general, one should consider combining multiple interpretations of the sensi genchain structure, but the mappings may conflict/be too high in damage, but generally, up to warts, [[65edo]] and 111edo are good general tunings, while [[46edo]] is good for lower-accuracy interpretations. All support sensible by patent val, and in that regard {{nowrap| 65 + 111 = 176g }} is almost patent val.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23.31
 
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 961/960, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
 
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 2 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 8 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6623{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0616{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1858{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.490


== Sensi ==
== Sensi ==
{{Main| Sensi }}
{{Main| Sensi }}


Sensi tempers out [[245/243]], [[686/675]] and [[4375/4374]] in addition to [[126/125]], and can be described as the 19 &amp; 27 temperament. It has as a generator half the size of a slightly wide major sixth, which gives an interval sharp of 9/7 and flat of 13/10, both of which can be used to identify it, as 2.3.5.7.13 sensi (sensation) tempers out 91/90. 22/17, in the middle, is even closer to the generator. [[46edo]] is an excellent sensi tuning, and [[mos scale]]s of size 8, 11, 19 and 27 are available.  
Sensi tempers out [[245/243]], [[686/675]] and [[4375/4374]] in addition to [[126/125]], and can be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 27 }} temperament. It has as a generator half the size of a slightly wide major sixth, which gives an interval sharp of 9/7 and flat of 13/10, both of which can be used to identify it, as 2.3.5.7.13 sensi (sensation) tempers out 91/90. 22/17, in the middle, is even closer to the generator. [[46edo]] is an excellent sensi tuning, and [[mos scale]]s of size 8, 11, 19 and 27 are available.  


=== Septimal sensi ===
=== Septimal sensi ===
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1-1 -1 -2 | 0 7 9 13 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1-1 -1 -2 | 0 7 9 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7081{c}}, ~9/7 = 443.2748{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7081{{c}}, ~9/7 = 443.2748{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.292 +1.261 +3.452 -5.669 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.292 +1.261 +3.452 -5.669 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 443.3493{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 443.3493{{c}}
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 0| 0 7 9 13 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 0| 0 7 9 13 10 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 245/243, 385/384
Comma list: 126/125, 245/243, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 | 0 7 9 13 -15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 | 0 7 9 13 -15 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 385/384
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 154/153, 169/168, 256/255
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 154/153, 169/168, 256/255


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 10 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 -16 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 10 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 -16 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 245/243
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 245/243


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8| 0 7 9 13 31 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8| 0 7 9 13 31 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 352/351
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 352/351


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 136/135, 154/153, 169/168
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 136/135, 154/153, 169/168


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 -7 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 30 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 -7 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 245/243
Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 245/243


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 2| 0 7 9 13 4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 2| 0 7 9 13 4 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 56/55, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
Comma list: 56/55, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 2 0 | 0 7 9 13 4 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 2 0 | 0 7 9 13 4 10 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 77/75, 99/98
Comma list: 55/54, 77/75, 99/98


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -1| 0 7 9 13 12 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -1| 0 7 9 13 12 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 66/65, 77/75, 143/140
Comma list: 55/54, 66/65, 77/75, 143/140


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -1 0 | 0 7 9 13 12 11}}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -1 0 | 0 7 9 13 12 10}}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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=== Bisensi ===
=== Bisensi ===
Bisensi has a 1/2-octave period. Its ploidacot is diploid delta-heptacot (pergen (P8/2, ccP5/7)).  
Bisensi has a 1/2-octave period and the generator can be taken as ~9/7 or its semi-octave complement, ~11/10. Its ploidacot is diploid delta-heptacot (pergen (P8/2, ccP5/7)). (As 84edo is even, one might be interested to know its [[17-limit]] val is 84def, corresponding to a strong flat tendency.)


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 245/243
Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 245/243


Mapping:
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 | 0 7 9 13 8 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 | 0 7 9 13 8 }}
 
:: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~9/7
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~9/7
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 9 9 | 0 -7 -9 -13 -8 }}
:: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~11/10


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 121/120, 126/125, 169/168
Comma list: 91/90, 121/120, 126/125, 169/168


Mapping:
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 0 | 0 7 9 13 8 10 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 0 | 0 7 9 13 8 10}}
:: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~9/7
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 9 9 10 | 0 -7 -9 -13 -8 -10 }}
:: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~11/10


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 91/90, 121/120, 126/125, 154/153, 169/168
Comma list: 91/90, 121/120, 126/125, 154/153, 169/168


Mapping:
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 0 3 | 0 7 9 13 8 10 7 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 -4 1 0 3 | 0 7 9 13 8 10 7}}
:: mapping generators: ~17/12, ~9/7
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 9 9 10 10 | 0 -7 -9 -13 -8 -10 -7 }}
:: mapping generators: ~17/12, ~11/10


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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=== Hemisensi ===
=== Hemisensi ===
Hemisensi splits the ~9/7 generator in two, each for ~25/22. Its ploidacot is beta-tetradecacot (pergen (P8, ccP5/14)).  
Hemisensi splits the ~9/7 generator in two, each for ~25/22. Its ploidacot is beta-14-cot (pergen (P8, ccP5/14)).  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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Comma list: 126/125, 243/242, 245/242
Comma list: 126/125, 243/242, 245/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -3 | 0 14 18 26 35 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -3 | 0 14 18 26 35 }}


: mapping generators: ~2, ~25/22
: mapping generators: ~2, ~25/22
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Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 243/242
Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168, 243/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -3 0 | 0 14 18 26 35 20 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 -2 -3 0 | 0 14 18 26 35 20 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -1 -9 | 0 7 9 32 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -1 -9 | 0 7 9 32 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -1 15 | 0 7 9 -33 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -1 15 | 0 7 9 -33 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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Comma list: 176/175, 1331/1323, 5120/5103
Comma list: 176/175, 1331/1323, 5120/5103


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 15 9 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 15 9 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~128/99


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 847/845, 1331/1323
Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 847/845, 1331/1323


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 15 9 17 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 -36 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 15 9 17 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 -36 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~84/65


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 351/350, 442/441, 715/714
Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 351/350, 442/441, 715/714


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 15 9 17 10 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 -36 -16 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -1 15 9 17 10 | 0 7 9 -33 -15 -36 -16 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~22/17


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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== Bison ==
== Bison ==
Bison has a 1/2-octave period. Its ploidacot is diploid delta-heptacot (pergen (P8/2, ccP5/7)). Related page: [[Bison/Eliora's Approach]].
Bison has a 1/2-octave period and the generator can be taken as [[~]][[162/125]] or its semi-octave complement, ~[[35/32]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is diploid delta-heptacot ([[pergen]] (P8/2, ccP5/7)).  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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[[Comma list]]: 6144/6125, 78732/78125
[[Comma list]]: 6144/6125, 78732/78125


[[Mapping]]:
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 -2 -2 13 | 0 7 9 -10 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 13 | 0 7 9 -10}}
: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~162/125
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~162/125
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 3 | 0 -7 -9 10 }}
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~35/32


[[Optimal tuning]]s:
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
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Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 8019/8000
Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 8019/8000


Mapping:
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -2 -2 13 18 | 0 7 9 -10 -15 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 13 18 | 0 7 9 -10 -15 }}
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~162/125
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 3 3 | 0 -7 -9 10 15 }}
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~35/32


Optimal tunings:
Optimal tunings:
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Comma list: 351/350, 364/363, 441/440, 10985/10976
Comma list: 351/350, 364/363, 441/440, 10985/10976


Mapping:
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -2 -2 13 18 17 | 0 7 9 -10 -15 -13 }}
* common form: {{mapping| 2 -2 -2 13 18 17 | 0 7 9 -10 -15 -13 }}
:: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~162/125
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 3 3 4 | 0 -7 -9 10 15 13 }}
:: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~35/32


Optimal tunings:
Optimal tunings:
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== Subpental ==
== Subpental ==
Subpental splits the generator ~14/9 in two. Its ploidacot is theta-tetradecacot (pergen (P8, c<sup>4</sup>P4/14)).  
Subpental splits the generator of sensipent plus an octave, ~324/125, in two, each for ~45/28 of about 821.5 cents. Alternatively, the generator may be taken to be its octave complement, ~56/45, of about 378.5 cents. Its ploidacot is theta-14-cot (pergen (P8, c<sup>4</sup>P4/14)).  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -10 -28 | 0 14 18 45 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -10 -28 | 0 14 18 45 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~45/28
: mapping generators: ~2, ~45/28


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Comma list: 540/539, 3136/3125, 8019/8000
Comma list: 540/539, 3136/3125, 8019/8000


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 -28 24 | 0 14 18 45 -30 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 -28 24 | 0 14 18 45 -30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 676/675, 3136/3125
Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 676/675, 3136/3125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 -28 24 -23 | 0 14 18 45 -30 39 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 -28 24 -23 | 0 14 18 45 -30 39 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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== Heinz ==
== Heinz ==
Heinz splits the generator ~18/7 in three. Its ploidacot is theta-21-cot (pergen (P8, c<sup>9</sup>P5/21)). A notable tuning of heinz not shown below for those who like [[19edo]]'s representation of the [[5-limit]] is [[57edo]] (57 = 103 - 46).
Heinz splits the sensipent generator ~324/125 in three. Its ploidacot is theta-21-cot (pergen (P8, c<sup>9</sup>P5/21)). A notable tuning of heinz not shown below for those who like [[19edo]]'s representation of the [[5-limit]] is [[57edo]] (57 = 103 - 46).


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -10 6 | 0 21 27 -7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -10 6 | 0 21 27 -7 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35
: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35


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Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 78732/78125
Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 78732/78125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 6 3 | 0 21 27 -7 1}}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 6 3 | 0 21 27 -7 1}}


: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/8
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/8
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Comma list: 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 847/845
Comma list: 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 847/845


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16}}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16}}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 273/272, 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 847/845
Comma list: 273/272, 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 847/845


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 5 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16 -2}}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 5 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16 -2}}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 171/170, 209/208, 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 969/968
Comma list: 171/170, 209/208, 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 969/968


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 5 12 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16 -2 -17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -10 6 3 11 5 12 | 0 21 27 -7 1 -16 -2 -17 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 3 4 6 8 | 0 7 9 4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 3 4 6 8 | 0 7 9 4 }}
: mapping generators: ~63/50, ~36/35
: mapping generators: ~63/50, ~36/35


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Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 78732/78125
Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 78732/78125


Mapping: {{mapping| 3 4 6 8 8 | 0 7 9 4 22 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 4 6 8 8 | 0 7 9 4 22 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 540/539, 9295/9261
Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 540/539, 9295/9261


Mapping: {{mapping| 3 4 6 8 8 11 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 4 6 8 8 11 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 }}


: mapping generators: ~49/39, ~36/35
: mapping generators: ~49/39, ~36/35
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Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 442/441, 540/539, 715/714
Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 442/441, 540/539, 715/714


Mapping: {{mapping| 3 4 6 8 8 11 10 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 21 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 4 6 8 8 11 10 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 21 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 176/175, 286/285, 324/323, 351/350, 400/399, 476/475
Comma list: 176/175, 286/285, 324/323, 351/350, 400/399, 476/475


Mapping: {{mapping| 3 4 6 8 8 11 10 12 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 21 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 4 6 8 8 11 10 12 | 0 7 9 4 22 1 21 7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.12
Badness (Sintel): 1.12


== Subgroup extensions ==
=== Sensipent (2.3.5.31) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.31
Comma list: 961/960, 2511/2500
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 2 | 0 7 9 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0154{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0514{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0474{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8, 11c, 19, 46, 65, 344, 409, 474, 539, 604c }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.243
=== Sensible (2.3.5.11) ===
{{See also| Sensipent #Sensible interval table }}
Sensible is an extension of sensipent with prime 11 of dubious canonicity but significantly higher accuracy than [[sensi]]. It interprets the generator as [[165/128]]~[[128/99]] by tempering out [[8019/8000]] so that [[11/8]] is reached as ([[10/9]])<sup>3</sup>. This extension is very strong as supported by the [[optimal ET sequence]] going very far and as supported by another observation that it also tempers out the [[semiporwellisma]], which is equal to [[S-expression|S31⋅S32<sup>2</sup>]] (thus forming the S-expression-based comma list). The vanish of the semiporwellisma, a [[lopsided comma]], implies that this temperament equates ([[33/32]])<sup>2</sup> with [[16/15]] as well as that a natural extension for prime 31 exists through {[[961/960]] ({{S|31}}), [[1024/1023]] ({{S|32}})}, which we will see is very accurate, but this itself suggests that an extension with prime 17 is reasonably accurate through tempering out [[1089/1088]] ({{s|33}}) so that a slightly sharp ~[[22/17]] is equated with the generator.
The aforementioned extension with prime 17 through tempering out 1089/1088 implies tempering out [[256/255]] ({{S|16}}), as {{nowrap| 256/255 {{=}} (22/17)/(165/128) }}.
Sensible uses the accurate mapping of prime 31 in sensipent, so that the sensible generator serves many roles in subgroup harmony, but it is not ~[[9/7]] or ~[[13/10]] which would incur more damage. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list {{nowrap| is {([[8019/8000|S9/S10]], [[256/255|S16]],) [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]], [[961/960|S31]], [[1024/1023|S32]], [[1089/1088|S33]]} }} implying also tempering out [[496/495]] (S31⋅S32) and [[528/527]] (S32⋅S33) as well as [[16337/16335]] (S31/S33) = ([[17/15]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup>. A notable [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence is [[157edo]]. A notable non-patent val is [[84edo|84g]].
Finally, despite not appearing in the final optimal ET sequence, [[241edo]] is a good tuning for it via the val {{nowrap| 65 + 176g {{=}} 241g. }} (Specifically, in the sequence of edos 111, 176, 241, 65 we have increasingly good 5-limit, an essentially-just 11/8 in 111 that gets slightly sharper, a 23/16 that gets slightly flatter and becomes essentially-just in 65, and a 31 that is essentially-just in 241, leaving only the sharp 17 as encouraging a tuning closer to 111 than 65, and with more unusual complex subgroup harmony extensions (or simpler but less accurate ones) available in most of these tunings.)
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Comma list: 6912/6875, 8019/8000
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 9 | 0 7 9 -15 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6725{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.0183{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/99 = 443.1341{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 176, 241, 306 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.728
==== 2.3.5.11.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17
Comma list: 256/255, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 9 10 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5016{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0038{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1878{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.639
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6207{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0400{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1808{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.555
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23.31 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.17.23.31
Comma list: 256/255, 576/575, 961/960, 1089/1088, 1377/1375
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 9 10 6 2 | 0 7 9 -15 -16 -4 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6623{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.0616{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/17 = 443.1858{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.490
=== Sendai (2.3.5.23) ===
{{See also| Sensipent #Sendai interval table }}
Sendai is an accurate extension of sensipent with primes [[23/16|23]] and [[29/16|29]] found by [[User:VIxen|VIxen]]. It is named after the body of acquis designed to prevent disaster risk and improve civil protection through international cooperation and after the city in Japan of the same name where it was signed (and where an international music competition is held). Note that [[84edo]] is an alternative possible [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence. It is ideal in tuning for ambiguating the generator's 2.3.5.31 interpretation as 40/31~31/24, being between these (and hence also a good tuning of 2.3.5.31 sensipent at the cost of some 5-limit accuracy).
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==== 2.3.5.23.29.31 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.23.29.31
Comma list: 465/464, 576/575, 621/620, 900/899
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 -1 -1 6 -4 2| 0 7 9 -4 24 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0782{{c}}, ~31/24 = 443.0005{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~31/24 = 442.9762{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 46j, 65, 149, 363j }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.283
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