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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
140edo is related to [[70edo]], from which it inherits the slightly sharp tuning of the [[3/1|3rd]] [[harmonic]] and the slightly flat tunings of the [[11/1|11th]], [[13/1|13th]] and [[17/1|17th]] harmonics, but the [[5/1|5th]] and [[7/1|7th]] harmonics are much improved, enabling it to approximate [[JI]] of various [[prime limit|limits]]. Its peak form is in the [[17-limit|17-]], [[19-limit|19-]] and [[ | 140edo is related to [[70edo]], from which it inherits the slightly sharp tuning of the [[3/1|3rd]] [[harmonic]] and the slightly flat tunings of the [[11/1|11th]], [[13/1|13th]] and [[17/1|17th]] harmonics, but the [[5/1|5th]] and [[7/1|7th]] harmonics are much improved, enabling it to approximate [[JI]] of various [[prime limit|limits]]. Its peak form is in the [[17-limit|17-]], [[19-limit|19-]], [[23-limit|23-]], and [[29-limit]], despite the obvious lack of [[consistency]] in the corresponding [[odd limit]]s. In fact, the only inconsistently mapped intervals in the [[17-odd-limit]] are [[11/9]] and its [[octave complement]], though with the [[23-odd-limit]], [[19/11]], [[19/17]], [[23/18]], [[23/19]] and their octave complements are also added to that list. | ||
In the 5-limit, 140et [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[15625/15552]], making it a kleismic system, and the [[kwazy comma]], {{monzo| -53 10 16 }}. It is most notable, however, in the 7-limit, where it tempers out [[2401/2400]], [[5120/5103]], [[10976/10935]] and [[65625/65536]]. It [[support]]s the 7-limit rank-2 temperaments [[tertiaseptal]], [[hemififths]], [[countercata]] and [[bisupermajor]], and is a good tuning recommendation for countercata, the {{nowrap| 53 & 87 }} temperament tempering out 15625/15552 and 5120/5103, and provides the [[optimal patent val]] for 13-limit countercata. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[385/384]], [[1331/1323]], [[1375/1372]], [[5632/5625]], [[6250/6237]] and [[9801/9800]], and in the 13-limit [[325/324]], [[352/351]], [[625/624]], [[676/675]], [[847/845]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]] and [[2080/2079]]. | In the 5-limit, 140et [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[15625/15552]], making it a kleismic system, and the [[kwazy comma]], {{monzo| -53 10 16 }}. It is most notable, however, in the 7-limit, where it tempers out [[2401/2400]], [[5120/5103]], [[10976/10935]] and [[65625/65536]]. It [[support]]s the 7-limit rank-2 temperaments [[tertiaseptal]], [[hemififths]], [[countercata]] and [[bisupermajor]], and is a good tuning recommendation for countercata, the {{nowrap| 53 & 87 }} temperament tempering out 15625/15552 and 5120/5103, and provides the [[optimal patent val]] for 13-limit countercata. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[385/384]], [[1331/1323]], [[1375/1372]], [[5632/5625]], [[6250/6237]] and [[9801/9800]], and in the 13-limit [[325/324]], [[352/351]], [[625/624]], [[676/675]], [[847/845]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]] and [[2080/2079]]. | ||
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=== Miscellany === | === Miscellany === | ||
If we use the [[val]] {{val| 140 223 325 394 }} (140bbd) we obtain a tuning for [[porcupine]] temperament; the generator 19\140 is 0.023 cents flat of the [[POTE generator]]. | If we use the [[val]] {{val| 140 223 325 394 }} (140bbd) we obtain a tuning for [[porcupine]] temperament; the generator 19\140 is 0.023 cents flat of the [[POTE generator]]. | ||
== Interval table == | |||
Due to its inconsistencies in higher limits (as discussed in [[#Higher-limit JI]]), this table focuses primarily on the 29-limit add-41 add-53 and especially the 17-limit, with some more accurate intervals of 37 and 43 included. It was generated partially algorithmically with [[User:Godtone#My Python 3 code|Godtone's code]]. Many additions to this interpretation from higher limits are possible; specifically, by observing omitted odds early on in the table, it's possible to guess where and why the inconsistencies arise. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3" | |||
|- | |||
! Degree | |||
! Cents | |||
! Approximate ratios* | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 8.57 | |||
| [[256/255|S15]], [[225/224|S14]], [[196/195|S14]], [[169/168|S13]], ''[[121/120|S11]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 17.14 | |||
| ''[[144/143|S12]]'', [[105/104]], [[100/99]], [[99/98]], [[91/90]], [[85/84]] | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 25.71 | |||
| [[78/77]], [[66/65]], [[65/64]], [[64/63]], ''[[55/54]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 34.29 | |||
| [[56/55]], 54/53, 53/52, [[52/51]], [[51/50]], [[50/49]], [[49/48]], 46/45 | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 42.86 | |||
| [[45/44]], 44/43, 43/42, [[128/125]], 42/41, 41/40, [[40/39]], 39/38 | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 51.43 | |||
| [[36/35]], [[35/34]], [[34/33]], [[33/32]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 60.0 | |||
| [[30/29]], [[29/28]], [[28/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 68.57 | |||
| [[27/26]], 53/51, [[26/25]], 51/49, [[25/24]] | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 77.14 | |||
| [[24/23]], [[23/22]], [[68/65]], [[22/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 85.71 | |||
| [[21/20]], 104/99, 41/39, [[20/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 94.29 | |||
| 96/91, 19/18, 56/53, 37/35, [[55/52]] | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 102.86 | |||
| [[18/17]], [[35/33]], [[52/49]], [[17/16]] | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 111.43 | |||
| [[16/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 120.0 | |||
| [[15/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 128.57 | |||
| [[14/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 137.14 | |||
| [[27/25]], 40/37, 53/49, [[13/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 145.71 | |||
| [[38/35]], [[25/23]], 99/91, 37/34, [[49/45]] | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 154.29 | |||
| [[12/11]], [[35/32]], 58/53, [[23/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 162.86 | |||
| 45/41, [[56/51]], [[11/10]] | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 171.43 | |||
| [[54/49]], 75/68, [[32/29]], 85/77, 53/48, [[21/19]] | |||
|-steps | |||
| 21 | |||
| 180.0 | |||
| 72/65, 41/37, 51/46, [[10/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 188.57 | |||
| [[49/44]], [[39/35]], [[29/26]] | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 197.14 | |||
| ''[[19/17]]'', [[28/25]], 102/91, 46/41, 37/33, [[55/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 205.71 | |||
| [[9/8]], [[44/39]] | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 214.29 | |||
| [[26/23]], 60/53, 43/38, [[17/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 222.86 | |||
| [[25/22]], 58/51, [[33/29]], 41/36 | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 231.43 | |||
| [[8/7]], [[55/48]] | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 240.0 | |||
| ''[[63/55]]'', [[39/34]], [[147/128]], 85/74, [[23/20]] | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 248.57 | |||
| ''[[38/33]]'', 53/46, [[15/13]], [[52/45]], ''[[22/19]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 257.14 | |||
| [[51/44]], [[29/25]], 65/56 | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 265.71 | |||
| [[64/55]], 99/85, [[7/6]] | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 274.29 | |||
| [[90/77]], 48/41, 41/35, [[75/64]], [[34/29]], 88/75 | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 282.86 | |||
| ''[[27/23]]'', [[20/17]], 53/45, [[33/28]], 46/39 | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 291.43 | |||
| [[13/11]], 58/49, 45/38, [[32/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 300.0 | |||
| [[19/16]], [[44/37]], [[25/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 308.57 | |||
| 43/36, 49/41, 55/46 | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 317.14 | |||
| [[6/5]], [[77/64]] | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 325.71 | |||
| 53/44, 41/34, 35/29, 64/53, 29/24, ''[[23/19]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 334.29 | |||
| [[40/33]], 91/75, [[17/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 40 | |||
| 342.86 | |||
| [[28/23]], [[39/32]], 50/41, [[128/105]], ''[[11/9]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 41 | |||
| 351.43 | |||
| [[60/49]], [[49/40]] | |||
|- | |||
| 42 | |||
| 360.0 | |||
| ''[[27/22]]'', [[16/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 43 | |||
| 368.57 | |||
| [[21/17]], 68/55, [[99/80]], [[26/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 44 | |||
| 377.14 | |||
| [[36/29]], 41/33, 46/37, 51/41, [[56/45]], 66/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 45 | |||
| 385.71 | |||
| [[96/77]], [[5/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 46 | |||
| 394.29 | |||
| [[64/51]], 54/43, [[49/39]], [[44/35]], ''[[34/27]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 47 | |||
| 402.86 | |||
| [[63/50]], [[29/23]], 53/42, [[24/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 48 | |||
| 411.43 | |||
| [[19/15]], 52/41, [[33/26]], [[80/63]] | |||
|- | |||
| 49 | |||
| 420.0 | |||
| ''[[108/85]]'', [[14/11]], [[65/51]], [[51/40]], ''[[23/18]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 50 | |||
| 428.57 | |||
| [[32/25]], 41/32, [[50/39]], 68/53, [[77/60]] | |||
|- | |||
| 51 | |||
| 437.14 | |||
| [[9/7]], 85/66, 58/45, 49/38 | |||
|- | |||
| 52 | |||
| 445.71 | |||
| 84/65, 53/41, [[128/99]], 75/58, [[22/17]], [[136/105]], [[35/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 53 | |||
| 454.29 | |||
| 100/77, [[13/10]] | |||
|- | |||
| 54 | |||
| 462.86 | |||
| [[30/23]], [[64/49]], [[98/75]], [[17/13]], [[55/42]] | |||
|- | |||
| 55 | |||
| 471.43 | |||
| ''[[72/55]]'', 38/29, [[21/16]], 130/99, 46/35, [[25/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 56 | |||
| 480.0 | |||
| [[29/22]], [[33/25]], 70/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 57 | |||
| 488.57 | |||
| [[45/34]], 53/40, 65/49, [[85/64]] | |||
|- | |||
| 58 | |||
| 497.14 | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 59 | |||
| 505.71 | |||
| 91/68, [[75/56]], 55/41, 51/38 | |||
|- | |||
| 60 | |||
| 514.29 | |||
| [[35/26]], [[66/49]], [[85/63]] | |||
|- | |||
| 61 | |||
| 522.86 | |||
| [[27/20]], [[104/77]], [[88/65]], [[65/48]] | |||
|- | |||
| 62 | |||
| 531.43 | |||
| [[19/14]], 72/53, 53/39, [[34/25]], [[49/36]] | |||
|- | |||
| 63 | |||
| 540.0 | |||
| [[15/11]], 56/41, 41/30, [[26/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 64 | |||
| 548.57 | |||
| [[48/35]], [[70/51]], 136/99, [[11/8]] | |||
|- | |||
| 65 | |||
| 557.14 | |||
| 51/37, [[40/29]], [[29/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 66 | |||
| 565.71 | |||
| [[18/13]], 104/75, 68/49, [[25/18]] | |||
|- | |||
| 67 | |||
| 574.29 | |||
| [[32/23]], [[39/28]], 46/33, 53/38, 60/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 68 | |||
| 582.86 | |||
| [[7/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 69 | |||
| 591.43 | |||
| [[45/32]], [[128/91]], [[55/39]] | |||
|- | |||
| 70 | |||
| 600.0 | |||
| [[24/17]], 41/29, [[140/99]], [[99/70]], 58/41, [[17/12]] | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki>*</nowiki> As a no-31's no-47's 53-limit temperament. | |||
== Notation == | |||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
140edo can be notated using [[Kite's ups and downs notation|ups and downs]] with quarter-tone accidentals: | |||
{{Ups and downs sharpness|140|true}} | |||
Mapping an arrow to 3\140 rather than 1\140 is an alternative approach which takes advantage of 140edo being a tuning of akea temperament. This way, one arrow is equivalent to 81/80~64/63, and two arrows are equivalent to 33/32~1053/1024. This notation style (without quarter-tone accidentals) was used by [[User:Tristanbay|Tristan Bay]] to compose the song ''Interpolate Me'' in the music tracker [[Osctet]]. | |||
== Approximation to JI == | == Approximation to JI == | ||
=== Higher-limit JI === | === Higher-limit JI === | ||
140edo is very strong as a high-limit system, performing generally very well for its size in extremely high [[odd-limit]]s like 125 but also being a good choice for all odd limits 41 through | 140edo is very strong as a high-limit system, performing generally very well for its size in extremely high [[odd-limit]]s like 125 but also being a good choice for all odd limits 41 through 53. The main flaw is inconsistency; the cost of getting so much right is that there is a lot of things it maps inconsistently (so with more than {{nowrap|0.5\140 {{=}} ~4.28{{c}}}} of error, but almost always less than {{nowrap|1\140 {{=}} 8.57{{c}} of error}}), even though there is far more that it gets right. It is especially notable as a tuning of [[degrees]] (with 1\20 period), [[decoid]] (with 1\10 period) and [[thunderclysmic]] (with 1\5 period), all extending to high limits (largely) through the wealth of interpretations of intervals of [[5edo]]. | ||
In fact, in the full 125-odd-limit, according to the 113-limit [[patent val]], there is only 10 interval pairs that are mapped with more than 1\140 of error, and they are all intervals of {{nowrap| 11<sup>2</sup> {{=}} 121 }}, due to 11 being relatively flat. They are: 121/118, 121/114, 121/109, 121/93, 121/89, 121/83, 121/81, 121/79, 121/73, 121/62 (and their octave-complements). This is remarkable because there is an astounding 1600 interval pairs in the 125-odd-limit. As for inconsistencies, there are 374 inconsistent interval pairs in the 125-odd-limit out of 1600, or around 23%. If we omit intervals of 121, it drops to 329/1543, or around 21%. | In fact, in the full 125-odd-limit, according to the 113-limit [[patent val]], there is only 10 interval pairs that are mapped with more than 1\140 of error, and they are all intervals of {{nowrap| 11<sup>2</sup> {{=}} 121 }}, due to 11 being relatively flat. They are: 121/118, 121/114, 121/109, 121/93, 121/89, 121/83, 121/81, 121/79, 121/73, 121/62 (and their octave-complements). This is remarkable because there is an astounding 1600 interval pairs in the 125-odd-limit. As for inconsistencies, there are 374 inconsistent interval pairs in the 125-odd-limit out of 1600, or around 23%. If we omit intervals of 121, it drops to 329/1543, or around 21%. | ||
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=== Zeta peak index === | === Zeta peak index === | ||
{ | {{ZPI | ||
| zpi = 872 | |||
| steps = 139.990541024216 | |||
| step size = 8.57200773152536 | |||
| tempered height = 10.076688 | |||
| pure height = 9.983474 | |||
| integral = 1.548424 | |||
| gap = 19.514765 | |||
| octave = 1200.08108241355 | |||
| consistent = 10 | |||
| distinct = 10 | |||
}} | |||
| 8.57200773152536 | |||
| 10.076688 | |||
| 1.548424 | |||
| 19.514765 | |||
| | |||
| 10 | |||
| 10 | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| 351.43 | | 351.43 | ||
| 49/40 | | 49/40 | ||
| [[Hemififths]] | | [[Hemififths]] (7-limit) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| [[Oquatonic]] | | [[Oquatonic]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Scales == | |||
* [[7L 7s in 140edo]]: 13 7 13 7 13 7 13 7 13 7 13 7 13 7 (''[[whitewood]][14]'') | |||
== Music == | |||
[[Art Esploro]] | |||
* ''Falling Stars'' (2026) ([https://www.patreon.com/posts/falling-stars-159221000 preview]) | |||
[[User:Tristanbay|'''Tristan Bay''']] | |||
* [https://youtu.be/RLcZe7vlR5c ''Interpolate Me''] (2026) | |||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||