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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
63edo [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[3125/3072]] in the 5-limit and [[225/224]], [[245/243]], and [[875/864]] in the 7-limit, so that it [[support]]s [[magic]] temperament. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[100/99]], supporting 11-limit magic, plus [[385/384]] and [[540/539]], [[896/891]]. In the 13-limit it tempers out [[169/168]], [[275/273]], [[640/637]], [[352/351]], [[364/363]] and [[676/675]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[immune]], the {{nowrap| 29 & 34d }} temperament in the 7-, 11- and 13-limit. | 63edo is almost [[consistent]] to the [[15-odd-limit]]; the only inconsistency is that [[10/9]] is mapped to 9\63 (1\7, the same as what [[11/10]] is mapped to consistently) so that it is almost 11{{cent}} out of tune. This corresponds to 63edo exaggerating the syntonic comma, [[81/80]], to two steps, so that it finds a somewhat flat mean-tone between ~10/9 and ~9/8. | ||
As an equal temperament, it [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[3125/3072]] in the 5-limit and [[225/224]], [[245/243]], and [[875/864]] in the 7-limit, so that it [[support]]s [[magic]] temperament. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[100/99]], supporting 11-limit magic, plus [[385/384]] and [[540/539]], [[896/891]]. In the 13-limit it tempers out [[169/168]], [[275/273]], [[640/637]], [[352/351]], [[364/363]] and [[676/675]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[immune]], the {{nowrap| 29 & 34d }} temperament in the 7-, 11- and 13-limit. | |||
63 is also a fascinating division to look at in the [[47-limit]]. Although it does not deal as well with primes 5, 17, 19, 37 and 41, it excels in the 2.3.7.11.13.23.29.31.43.47 [[subgroup]], and is a great candidate for a [[gentle]] tuning. Its regular augmented fourth (+6 fifths) is less than 0.3 cents sharp of [[23/16]], therefore tempering out [[736/729]]. Its diesis (+12 fifths) can represent [[33/32]], [[32/31]], [[30/29]], [[29/28]], [[28/27]], as well as [[91/88]], and more, so it is very versatile, making chains of fifths of 12 tones or longer very useful in covering harmonic and melodic ground while providing a lot of different colour in different keys. We can take advantage of the representation of 27:28:29:30:31:32:33, which splits [[11/9]] into six "small dieses" as a result; here it can be seen more clearly why these are not regular quarter-tones so are best distinguished from such with the qualifier "large", as otherwise we would expect to see some flavour of minor third after six of them. | 63 is also a fascinating division to look at in the [[47-limit]]. Although it does not deal as well with primes 5, 17, 19, 37 and 41, it excels in the 2.3.7.11.13.23.29.31.43.47 [[subgroup]], and is a great candidate for a [[gentle]] tuning. Its regular augmented fourth (+6 fifths) is less than 0.3 cents sharp of [[23/16]], therefore tempering out [[736/729]]. Its diesis (+12 fifths) can represent [[33/32]], [[32/31]], [[30/29]], [[29/28]], [[28/27]], as well as [[91/88]], and more, so it is very versatile, making chains of fifths of 12 tones or longer very useful in covering harmonic and melodic ground while providing a lot of different colour in different keys. We can take advantage of the representation of 27:28:29:30:31:32:33, which splits [[11/9]] into six "small dieses" as a result; here it can be seen more clearly why these are not regular quarter-tones so are best distinguished from such with the qualifier "large", as otherwise we would expect to see some flavour of minor third after six of them. | ||
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| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 190.5 | | 190.5 | ||
| [[29/26]], [[39/35]], [[49/44]] | | [[19/17]], [[29/26]], [[39/35]], [[49/44]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
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| 53 | | 53 | ||
| 1009.5 | | 1009.5 | ||
| [[52/29]], [[70/39]], [[88/49]] | | [[34/19]], [[52/29]], [[70/39]], [[88/49]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 54 | | 54 | ||
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> As a 2.3.5.7.11.13.23.29.31-subgroup (no-17 no-19 31-limit) temperament, inconsistent intervals in ''italics'' | <nowiki>*</nowiki> As a 2.3.5.7.11.13.23.29.31-subgroup (no-17 no-19 31-limit) temperament, inconsistent intervals in ''italics'' | ||
See | See the below section for a machine-generated table including higher-limit ratios selected with a mind towards higher accuracy. | ||
=== Higher-accuracy interpretations === | |||
The following table was created using [[User:Godtone#My python 3 code|Godtone's code]] with the command <code><nowiki>interpret_edo(63,ol=53,no=[5,17,19,25,27,37,41,51],add=[73,75,87,89,91,93,105],dec="''",wiki=23)</nowiki></code> (run in a Python 3 interactive console) plus manual correction of the order of some inconsistent intervals, removal of unsimplified intervals of 75, and adding of (the inconsistent but simple) 10/9, 21/20 and their octave-complements. | |||
As the command and description indicates, it is a(n accurate) "no-5's"* no-17's no-19's no-25's no-27's no-37's no-41's 49-odd-limit add-53 add-63 add-73 add-87 add-89 add-91 add-93 add-105 interpretation, tuned to the strengths of 63edo. * Note that because of the cancellation of factors, some odd harmonics of 5 (the simpler/more relevant ones) are present, EG {{nowrap|75/3 {{=}} 25}}, {{nowrap|45/3 {{=}} 15}}, {{nowrap|105/75 {{=}} 7/5}}, {{nowrap| 75/35/2 {{=}} 15/14}}, and {{nowrap|45/9 {{=}} 5}}, so it isn't really "no-5's", just has a de-emphasized focus. | |||
Intervals are listed in order of size, so that one can know their relative order at a glance and deem the value of the interpretation for a harmonic context, and [[23-limit]] intervals are highlighted for navigability as [[13-limit]] intervals are more likely to already have pages, and as we are excluding primes 17 and 19, we are only adding prime 23 to the 13-limit. | |||
Inconsistent intervals are ''in italics''. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3 mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|- | |||
! Degree | |||
! Cents | |||
! Approximate ratios<ref group="note">{{sg|limit=2.3.5.7.11.13.23.29.31.43.47.53.73.89-subgroup (no-17's no-19's no-37's no-41's 53-limit add-73 add-89 add-105)}} Note that due to the error on 5, only low-complexity intervals involving 5 are included here.</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| [[1/1]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 19.05 | |||
| 106/105, [[105/104]], 94/93, 93/92, [[92/91]], [[91/90]], 90/89, 89/88, 88/87, 87/86, 73/72, [[65/64]], [[64/63]] | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 38.1 | |||
| ''[[66/65]]'', 53/52, [[49/48]], 48/47, 47/46, 93/91, [[46/45]], 91/89, [[45/44]], 89/87, 44/43, 43/42 | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 57.14 | |||
| [[36/35]], [[33/32]], 32/31, 94/91, 31/30, 92/89, [[91/88]], 30/29, 89/86, 29/28, ''[[25/24]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 76.19 | |||
| [[26/25]], 49/47, 73/70, [[24/23]], 47/45, 93/89, [[23/22]], 91/87, 45/43, [[22/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 95.24 | |||
| ''[[21/20]]'', 98/93, [[96/91]], 94/89, 56/53, 93/88, 92/87, 91/86, 89/84, [[35/33]], [[52/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 114.29 | |||
| 33/31, [[49/46]], [[16/15]], 47/44, 78/73, 31/29, 46/43, [[15/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 133.33 | |||
| [[14/13]], 96/89, 94/87, 93/86, 53/49, [[13/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 152.38 | |||
| [[49/45]], [[12/11]], 47/43, [[35/32]], 58/53, [[23/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 171.43 | |||
| [[11/10]], 98/89, 43/39, 32/29, 53/48, 116/105, 73/66, 52/47, 31/28, ''[[10/9]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 190.48 | |||
| [[49/44]], [[39/35]], 29/26, 48/43, 105/94, 104/93, 47/42 | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 209.52 | |||
| ''[[28/25]]'', [[9/8]], 98/87, 53/47, [[44/39]], 35/31, [[26/23]], 60/53, ''[[25/22]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 228.57 | |||
| 33/29, 49/43, 106/93, 73/64, 89/78, [[105/92]], [[8/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 247.62 | |||
| 84/73, 53/46, [[15/13]], [[52/45]] | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 266.67 | |||
| ''29/25'', 36/31, 106/91, [[7/6]], 104/89, 62/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 285.71 | |||
| 73/62, 53/45, 86/73, [[33/28]], [[46/39]], 105/89, 124/105, [[13/11]], 58/49 | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 304.76 | |||
| 106/89, 56/47, 87/73, 31/26, [[105/88]], 43/36, 104/87 | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 323.81 | |||
| [[6/5]], 112/93, 53/44, 47/39, 88/73, 35/29, 64/53, 29/24, 52/43 | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 342.86 | |||
| 73/60, [[28/23]], 106/87, [[39/32]], [[128/105]], 89/73, 105/86, [[11/9]], [[60/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 361.9 | |||
| 43/35, [[16/13]], 53/43, 90/73, 58/47, 89/72, [[26/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 380.95 | |||
| 31/25, 36/29, 87/70, [[56/45]], 66/53, 91/73, 116/93, [[5/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 400.0 | |||
| [[49/39]], [[44/35]], 39/31, 112/89, 73/58, 92/73, 29/23, 53/42, [[91/72]], 62/49 | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 419.05 | |||
| [[33/26]], 89/70, [[14/11]], 93/73, 116/91, 60/47, [[23/18]] | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 438.1 | |||
| ''[[32/25]]'', [[9/7]], 112/87, 94/73, 58/45, 40/31, 31/24 | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 457.14 | |||
| [[13/10]], 56/43, 43/33, 116/89, 73/56, [[30/23]], 47/36, [[64/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 476.19 | |||
| [[21/16]], [[46/35]], 96/73, 29/22, [[120/91]], 62/47, 70/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 495.24 | |||
| 93/70, [[4/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 514.29 | |||
| 98/73, 47/35, 43/32, 39/29, [[35/26]], [[66/49]], 31/23, 120/89, 89/66, 58/43 | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 533.33 | |||
| 42/31, 72/53, 53/39, 87/64, [[49/36]], 64/47, 124/91, [[15/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 552.38 | |||
| [[48/35]], [[11/8]], 128/93, 73/53, 62/45, [[91/66]], 40/29, 29/21 | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 571.43 | |||
| [[18/13]], 43/31, 146/105, 89/64, [[32/23]], [[39/28]], 124/89, [[46/33]], 60/43 | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 590.48 | |||
| [[7/5]], 87/62, 73/52, 66/47, [[45/32]], [[128/91]], 31/22 | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 609.52 | |||
| 44/31, [[91/64]], [[64/45]], 47/33, 104/73, 124/87, [[10/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 628.57 | |||
| 43/30, [[33/23]], 89/62, [[56/39]], [[23/16]], 128/89, 105/73, 62/43, [[13/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 647.62 | |||
| 42/29, 29/20, [[132/91]], 45/31, 106/73, 93/64, [[16/11]], [[35/24]] | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 666.67 | |||
| [[22/15]], 91/62, 47/32, [[72/49]], 128/87, 78/53, 53/36, 31/21 | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 685.71 | |||
| 43/29, 132/89, 89/60, 46/31, [[49/33]], [[52/35]], 58/39, 64/43, 70/47, 73/49 | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 704.76 | |||
| [[3/2]], 140/93 | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 723.81 | |||
| 53/35, 47/31, [[91/60]], 44/29, 73/48, [[35/23]], [[32/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 742.86 | |||
| [[49/32]], 72/47, [[23/15]], 112/73, 89/58, 66/43, 43/28, [[20/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 40 | |||
| 761.9 | |||
| 48/31, 31/20, 45/29, 73/47, 87/56, [[14/9]], ''[[25/16]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 41 | |||
| 780.95 | |||
| [[36/23]], 47/30, 91/58, 146/93, [[11/7]], 140/89, [[52/33]] | |||
|- | |||
| 42 | |||
| 800.0 | |||
| 49/31, [[144/91]], 84/53, 46/29, 73/46, 116/73, 89/56, 62/39, [[35/22]], [[78/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 43 | |||
| 819.05 | |||
| [[8/5]], 93/58, 146/91, 53/33, [[45/28]], 140/87, 29/18, 50/31 | |||
|- | |||
| 44 | |||
| 838.1 | |||
| [[21/13]], 144/89, 47/29, 73/45, 86/53, [[13/8]], 70/43 | |||
|- | |||
| 45 | |||
| 857.14 | |||
| [[49/30]], [[18/11]], 172/105, 146/89, [[105/64]], [[64/39]], 87/53, [[23/14]], 120/73 | |||
|- | |||
| 46 | |||
| 876.19 | |||
| 43/26, 48/29, 53/32, 58/35, 73/44, 78/47, 88/53, 93/56, [[5/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 47 | |||
| 895.24 | |||
| 87/52, 72/43, [[176/105]], 52/31, 146/87, 47/28, 89/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 48 | |||
| 914.29 | |||
| 49/29, [[22/13]], 105/62, 178/105, [[39/23]], [[56/33]], 73/43, 90/53, 124/73 | |||
|- | |||
| 49 | |||
| 933.33 | |||
| 53/31, 89/52, [[12/7]], 91/53, 31/18, ''50/29'' | |||
|- | |||
| 50 | |||
| 952.38 | |||
| [[45/26]], [[26/15]], 92/53, 73/42 | |||
|- | |||
| 51 | |||
| 971.43 | |||
| [[7/4]], [[184/105]], 156/89, 128/73, 93/53, 86/49, 58/33 | |||
|- | |||
| 52 | |||
| 990.48 | |||
| ''[[44/25]]'', 53/30, [[23/13]], 62/35, [[39/22]], 94/53, 87/49, [[16/9]], ''[[25/14]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 53 | |||
| 1009.52 | |||
| 84/47, 93/52, 188/105, 43/24, 52/29, [[70/39]], [[88/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 54 | |||
| 1028.57 | |||
| ''[[9/5]]', 56/31, 47/26, 132/73, 105/58, 96/53, 29/16, 78/43, 89/49, [[20/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 55 | |||
| 1047.62 | |||
| [[42/23]], 53/29, [[64/35]], 86/47, [[11/6]], [[90/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 56 | |||
| 1066.67 | |||
| [[24/13]], 98/53, 172/93, 87/47, 89/48, [[13/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 57 | |||
| 1085.71 | |||
| [[28/15]], 43/23, 58/31, 73/39, 88/47, [[15/8]], [[92/49]], 62/33 | |||
|- | |||
| 58 | |||
| 1104.76 | |||
| [[49/26]], [[66/35]], 168/89, 172/91, 87/46, 176/93, 53/28, 89/47, [[91/48]], 93/49, ''[[40/21]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 59 | |||
| 1123.81 | |||
| [[21/11]], 86/45, 174/91, [[44/23]], 178/93, 90/47, [[23/12]], 140/73, 94/49, [[25/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 60 | |||
| 1142.86 | |||
| ''[[48/25]]'', 56/29, 172/89, 29/15, [[176/91]], 89/46, 60/31, 91/47, 31/16, [[64/33]], [[35/18]] | |||
|- | |||
| 61 | |||
| 1161.9 | |||
| 84/43, 43/22, 174/89, [[88/45]], 178/91, [[45/23]], 182/93, 92/47, 47/24, [[96/49]], 104/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 62 | |||
| 1180.95 | |||
| [[63/32]], 144/73, 172/87, 87/44, 176/89, 89/45, [[180/91]], [[91/46]], 184/93, 93/47, [[208/105]], 105/53 | |||
|- | |||
| 63 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
|} | |||
<references group="note" /> | |||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
63edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]]. Trup is equivalent to quudsharp, trudsharp is equivalent to quup, etc. | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp7a}} | |||
Alternatively, sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] can be used: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp7}} | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | === Sagittal notation === | ||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[56edo #Sagittal notation|56edo]]. | This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[56edo #Sagittal notation|56edo]]. | ||
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</imagemap> | </imagemap> | ||
=== | == Approximation to JI == | ||
=== Interval mappings === | |||
{{ | {{Q-odd-limit intervals}} | ||
=== Zeta peak index === | === Zeta peak index === | ||
{| class="wikitable center- | {{ZPI | ||
| zpi = 321 | |||
| steps = 63.0192885705350 | |||
| step size = 19.0417890652143 | |||
| tempered height = 6.768662 | |||
| pure height = 6.534208 | |||
| integral = 1.049023 | |||
| gap = 15.412920 | |||
| octave = 1199.63271110850 | |||
| consistent = 8 | |||
| distinct = 8 | |||
}} | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | |||
! colspan="2" | Tuning error | |||
|- | |||
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | |||
! [[TE simple badness|Relative]] (%) | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 2.3 | |||
| {{Monzo| 100 -63 }} | |||
| {{Mapping| 63 100 }} | |||
| -0.885 | |||
| 0.885 | |||
| 4.65 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 2.3.5 | |||
| 3125/3072, 1638400/1594323 | |||
| {{Mapping| 63 100 146 }} | |||
| +0.177 | |||
| 1.67 | |||
| 8.77 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[ | | 2.3.5.7 | ||
| 63. | | 225/224, 245/243, 51200/50421 | ||
| 19. | | {{Mapping| 63 100 146 177 }} | ||
| | | -0.099 | ||
| 1. | | 1.52 | ||
| | | 8.00 | ||
| | |- | ||
| | | 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| | | 100/99, 225/224, 245/243, 1331/1323 | ||
| | | {{mapping| 63 100 146 177 218 }} | ||
| -0.141 | |||
| 1.37 | |||
| 7.17 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
| 100/99, 169/168, 225/224, 245/243, 275/273 | |||
| {{mapping| 63 100 146 177 218 233 }} | |||
| -0.008 | |||
| 1.28 | |||
| 6.73 | |||
|} | |||
=== Rank-2 temperaments === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |||
|- | |||
! Periods<br>per 8ve | |||
! Generator* | |||
! Cents* | |||
! Associated<br>ratio* | |||
! Temperament | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 2\63 | |||
| 38.10 | |||
| 49/48 | |||
| [[Slender]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 13\63 | |||
| 247.62 | |||
| 15/13 | |||
| [[Immune]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 19\63 | |||
| 361.90 | |||
| 16/13 | |||
| [[Submajor]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 20\63 | |||
| 380.95 | |||
| 5/4 | |||
| [[Magic]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 25\63 | |||
| 476.19 | |||
| 21/16 | |||
| [[Subfourth]] | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 26\63<br>(5\63) | |||
| 495.24<br>(95.24) | |||
| 4/3<br>(21/20) | |||
| [[Fog]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 26\63<br>(1\63) | |||
| 495.24<br>(19.05) | |||
| 4/3<br>(64/63) | |||
| [[Sevond]] | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 13\63<br>(1\63) | |||
| 247.62<br>(19.05) | |||
| 15/13<br>(99/98) | |||
| [[Enneaportent]] | |||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* Timeywimey (original/default tuning): 16 10 7 4 11 5 10 | * Timeywimey (original/default tuning): 16 10 7 4 11 5 10 | ||
* Sandcastle (original/default tuning): 8 10 8 11 8 8 10 | * Sandcastle (original/default tuning): 8 10 8 11 8 8 10 | ||
== Instruments == | |||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 63edo]] | |||
* [[Skip fretting system 63 3 17]] | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IYLzF4ogl_w ''microtonal improvisation in 63edo''] (2025) | |||
; [[Cam Taylor]] | ; [[Cam Taylor]] | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/cam-taylor-2-1/12tone63edo1 ''Improvisation in 12-tone fifths chain''] (2015) | * [https://soundcloud.com/cam-taylor-2-1/12tone63edo1 ''Improvisation in 12-tone fifths chain''] (2015) |