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[[File:159edo Notation.png|thumb|Accidentals in the [[9/8]] space. First sketch by Aura.]] | [[File:159edo Notation.png|thumb|Accidentals in the [[9/8]] space. First sketch by Aura.]] | ||
[[File:159edo-accidentals.png|320px|thumb|Accidentals in the [[9/8]] space. Reworked version.]] | [[File:159edo-accidentals.png|320px|thumb|Accidentals in the [[9/8]] space. Reworked version.]] | ||
== | == Helmholtz–Ellis-based notation == | ||
The first [[159edo]]-notation system proposed by [[Aura]] modifies the [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] in such a way that undecimal quartertones play a central role alongside the traditional accidentals, with mainstream quartertone accidentals being used to represent them. This is because undecimal quartertones are actually useful in modulation to keys that are not on the same circle of fifths while being simultaneously within an unnoticeable comma's distance from the quartertone of [[24edo]], which many musicians outside the microtonal community proper have at least a passing familiarity with. It should be noted that most of the symbols listed in this section derive their functions from JI. In addition, it should be noted that accidentals are not just modifiers for single notes, but signs that indicate the change of both the tonal and modal base, and can thus appear in key signatures. | |||
The first [[159edo]]-notation system proposed by [[Aura]] modifies the [[ | |||
=== Available base glyphs === | === Available base glyphs === | ||
==== Quartertones and syntonic commas ==== | |||
==== Quartertones and | |||
As in [[HEJI]], classic accidentals and arrows for syntonic commas are combined. Beyond HEJI, quartertone accidentals are also used, being combined with syntonic comma arrows in the same way. | As in [[HEJI]], classic accidentals and arrows for syntonic commas are combined. Beyond HEJI, quartertone accidentals are also used, being combined with syntonic comma arrows in the same way. | ||
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! | ! −30 | ||
! | ! −22 | ||
! | ! −15 | ||
! | ! −7 | ||
! 0 | ! 0 | ||
! +7 | ! +7 | ||
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| [[File:Heji32.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji32.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! −3 | ||
| [[File:Heji3.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji3.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| [[File:HeQd3-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
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| [[File:Heji31.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji31.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! −6 | ||
| [[File:Heji2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| [[File:HeQd3-sd2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3-sd2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
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| [[File:HeQu3-sd2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQu3-sd2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| [[File:Heji30.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji30.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
==== Septimal commas and darts ==== | ==== Septimal commas and darts ==== | ||
Glyphs for septimal commas and darts are also used, but are generally not combined with each other except in certain musical contexts such as modulation. That said, if this system were to be extended to the 13-limit, the septimal comma glyphs would likely be combined with the 13-limit glyphs due to both 7-limit and 13-limit intervals having close connections to trientones (one third tones). | |||
Glyphs for septimal commas and darts are also used, but are generally not combined with each other except in certain musical contexts such as modulation. | |||
The septimal comma glyph traditionally indicates a change by [[64/63]], and thus, in this particular system, it is bound to the equivalent step size, which is around 30 cents- slightly larger than normal. | The septimal comma glyph traditionally indicates a change by [[64/63]], and thus, in this particular system, it is bound to the equivalent step size, which is around 30 cents- slightly larger than normal. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |||
! Delta | ! Delta | ||
! Glyph | ! Glyph | ||
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| [[File:Heji38.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji38.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −4 | ||
| [[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −8 | ||
| [[File:Heji36.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji36.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |||
! Delta | ! Delta | ||
! Glyph | ! Glyph | ||
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| [[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −1 | ||
| [[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −2 | ||
| [[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== Combined accidentals === | === Combined accidentals === | ||
The following table illustrates modification of a given tone by accidentals up to 30 steps of 159edo. The terms in the glyph name sections reflect absolute displacements, <code>–</code> means down, <code>+</code> means up. Furthermore, symbols with multiple names will have both names sharing the same cell. The choice between the primary and secondary glyphs for any given step is often determined both by absolute TE error and by harmonic and melodic context for any given score, particularly as the primary and secondary glyphs usually reflect different intervals in Just Intonation. For reference, the just whole tone interval, [[9/8]], is mapped to 27 steps of 159 edo (or 9 steps of [[53edo]]) which is (27*1200/159=) 203.77 cents (0.2 cents flat). | The following table illustrates modification of a given tone by accidentals up to 30 steps of 159edo. The terms in the glyph name sections reflect absolute displacements, <code>–</code> means down, <code>+</code> means up. Furthermore, symbols with multiple names will have both names sharing the same cell. The choice between the primary and secondary glyphs for any given step is often determined both by absolute TE error and by harmonic and melodic context for any given score, particularly as the primary and secondary glyphs usually reflect different intervals in Just Intonation. For reference, the just whole tone interval, [[9/8]], is mapped to 27 steps of 159 edo (or 9 steps of [[53edo]]) which is (27*1200/159=) 203.77 cents (0.2 cents flat). | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Change in 1\159 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! Delta | ! Delta | ||
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| | | −1 | ||
| [[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Dart down | | Dart down | ||
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| This is nothing more than a better version of the <code>v</code> marking from Ups and | | This is nothing more than a better version of the <code>v</code> marking from Ups and downs notation. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| +1 | | +1 | ||
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| This is nothing more than a better version of the <code>^</code> marking from Ups and | | This is nothing more than a better version of the <code>^</code> marking from Ups and downs notation. | ||
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| | | −2 | ||
| [[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Double dart down | | Double dart down | ||
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| This is two darts down fused into a single glyph for a more compact representation of <code>vv</code> from Ups and | | This is two darts down fused into a single glyph for a more compact representation of <code>vv</code> from Ups and downs notation. | ||
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| +2 | | +2 | ||
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| This is two darts up fused into a single glyph for a more compact representation of <code>^^</code> from Ups and | | This is two darts up fused into a single glyph for a more compact representation of <code>^^</code> from Ups and downs notation. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −3 | ||
| [[File:Heji17.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji17.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Natural –Syntonic comma | | Natural –Syntonic comma | ||
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| The intervals represented by the primary and secondary glyphs for this step differ by [[385/384]] in Just Intonation. | | The intervals represented by the primary and secondary glyphs for this step differ by [[385/384]] in Just Intonation. | ||
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| | | −4 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1-su1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1-su1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat +Syntonic comma, Demiflat +Syntonic comma | | Quarter flat +Syntonic comma, Demiflat +Syntonic comma | ||
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| The primary glyph overall represents a raising by [[55/54]]. | | The primary glyph overall represents a raising by [[55/54]]. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −5 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat with double dart up, Demiflat with double dart up | | Quarter flat with double dart up, Demiflat with double dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −6 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat with dart up, Demiflat with dart up | | Quarter flat with dart up, Demiflat with dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −7 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat, Demiflat | | Quarter flat, Demiflat | ||
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| This glyph represents a raising by [[33/32]], replacing its Helmholtz-Ellis equivalent on account of familiarity. | | This glyph represents a raising by [[33/32]], replacing its Helmholtz-Ellis equivalent on account of familiarity. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −8 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat, Demiflat with Dart down | | Quarter flat, Demiflat with Dart down | ||
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| | | −9 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat with double dart down, Demiflat with double dart down | | Quarter flat with double dart down, Demiflat with double dart down | ||
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| | | −10 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat –Syntonic comma, Demiflat –Syntonic comma | | Quarter flat –Syntonic comma, Demiflat –Syntonic comma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −11 | ||
| [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd1.svg|48x48px]][[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Quarter flat –Septimal comma, Demiflat –Septimal comma | | Quarter flat –Septimal comma, Demiflat –Septimal comma | ||
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| The primary glyph overall represents a raising by [[22/21]], and is the more simple of the two options presented here. | | The primary glyph overall represents a raising by [[22/21]], and is the more simple of the two options presented here. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −12 | ||
| [[File:Heji12.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji12.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat +Syntonic comma | | Flat +Syntonic comma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −13 | ||
| [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat with double dart up | | Flat with double dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −14 | ||
| [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat with dart up | | Flat with dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −15 | ||
| [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat | | Flat | ||
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| As this glyph represents a raising by an [[2187/2048|apotome]], and as the apotome is a complicated interval, this glyph is generally more likely to be seen as part of a key signature than as an accidental when not combined with other glyphs. | | As this glyph represents a raising by an [[2187/2048|apotome]], and as the apotome is a complicated interval, this glyph is generally more likely to be seen as part of a key signature than as an accidental when not combined with other glyphs. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −16 | ||
| [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat with dart down | | Flat with dart down | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −17 | ||
| [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji11.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat with double dart down | | Flat with double dart down | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −18 | ||
| [[File:Heji10.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji10.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Flat –Syntonic comma | | Flat –Syntonic comma | ||
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| If accidentals for the 13-limit are added to this system, this will be a prime spot for one of them. | | If accidentals for the 13-limit are added to this system, this will be a prime spot for one of them. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −19 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3-su1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3-su1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat +Syntonic comma, Sesquiflat +Syntonic comma | | Three quarter flat +Syntonic comma, Sesquiflat +Syntonic comma | ||
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| The secondary glyph represents a raising by [[243/224]], and is the more simple of the two options presented here. | | The secondary glyph represents a raising by [[243/224]], and is the more simple of the two options presented here. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −20 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat with double dart up, Sesquiflat with double dart up | | Three quarter flat with double dart up, Sesquiflat with double dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −21 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat with dart up, Sesquiflat with dart up | | Three quarter flat with dart up, Sesquiflat with dart up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −22 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat, Sesquiflat | | Three quarter flat, Sesquiflat | ||
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| This glyph represents a raising by a complex interval comprised of an [[2187/2048|apotome]] and a [[33/32]] quartertone, and as such, is generally more likely to be seen as part of a key signature than as an accidental when not combined with other glyphs. | | This glyph represents a raising by a complex interval comprised of an [[2187/2048|apotome]] and a [[33/32]] quartertone, and as such, is generally more likely to be seen as part of a key signature than as an accidental when not combined with other glyphs. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | −23 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat with dart down, Sesquiflat with dart down | | Three quarter flat with dart down, Sesquiflat with dart down | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −24 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-d2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat with double dart down, Sesquiflat with double dart down | | Three quarter flat with double dart down, Sesquiflat with double dart down | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −25 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3-sd1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat –Syntonic comma, Sesquiflat –Syntonic comma | | Three quarter flat –Syntonic comma, Sesquiflat –Syntonic comma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −26 | ||
| [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:HeQd3.svg|48x48px]][[File:Heji37.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Three quarter flat –Septimal comma, Sesquiflat –Septimal comma | | Three quarter flat –Septimal comma, Sesquiflat –Septimal comma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| | | −27 | ||
| [[File:Heji5.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji5.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Double flat +Syntonic comma | | Double flat +Syntonic comma | ||
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| | | −28 | ||
| [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u2.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Double flat with with double dart up | | Double flat with with double dart up | ||
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| | | −29 | ||
| [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]][[File:Dart-u1.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Double flat with dart up | | Double flat with dart up | ||
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| | | −30 | ||
| [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]] | | [[File:Heji4.svg|48x48px]] | ||
| Double flat | | Double flat | ||
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| This glyph represents a raising by a stack of two [[2187/2048|apotomes]], and as such, this glyph is more likely to be seen when combined with other glyphs, and key signatures using this glyph are likely to be considered remote and or exotic. | | This glyph represents a raising by a stack of two [[2187/2048|apotomes]], and as such, this glyph is more likely to be seen when combined with other glyphs, and key signatures using this glyph are likely to be considered remote and or exotic. | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== Advantages and disadvantages === | === Advantages and disadvantages === | ||
Among the advantages of this system is the fact that it keeps the traditional naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and assigns them to values based on 3-limit JI, resulting in this system having some level of familiarity for musicians from a traditional background. However, the disadvantages of this system are that this system relies on too many glyphs, a number of which need to be deciphered, and furthermore, the arrangement of combined and simple accidentals- as well as arrangement of the quartertone accidentals- is counterintuitive. In addition, a demisharp is approximately a half-sharp, yet here it is called a quarter-sharp, a break with well-established microtonal convention. Finally, two demisharps do not add up to a sharp as one would expect. | Among the advantages of this system is the fact that it keeps the traditional naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and assigns them to values based on 3-limit JI, resulting in this system having some level of familiarity for musicians from a traditional background. However, the disadvantages of this system are that this system relies on too many glyphs, a number of which need to be deciphered, and furthermore, the arrangement of combined and simple accidentals- as well as arrangement of the quartertone accidentals- is counterintuitive. In addition, a demisharp is approximately a half-sharp, yet here it is called a quarter-sharp, a break with well-established microtonal convention. Finally, two demisharps do not add up to a sharp as one would expect. | ||
== Ups-and- | == Ups-and-downs-based notation == | ||
Another system proposed by [[User:TallKite|TallKite]] uses ups and downs (^ v), with quintuple arrows notated as quip and quid (> <). | |||
* 1\159 = ^ = up | |||
* 2\159 = ^^ = dup | |||
* 3\159 = ^^^ = trup | |||
* 4\159 = v> = quup | |||
* 5\159 = > = quip | |||
* 6\159 = ^> = upquip | |||
* 7\159 = ^^> = dupquip or vvv<# = trudquidsharp | |||
* 8\159 = ^^^> = trupquip or vv<# = dudquidsharp | |||
* 9\159 = v>> = quupquip or v<# = downquidsharp | |||
* 10\159 = <# = quidsharp | |||
* 11\159 = ^<# = quudsharp | |||
* 12\159 = vvv# = trudsharp | |||
* 13\159 = vv# = dudsharp | |||
* 14\159 = v# = downsharp | |||
* 15\159 = # = sharp | |||
Notes flatter than natural can be deduced by symmetry, i.e. C vC vvC vvvC ^<C <C etc. Notes beyond sharp just run through the same list, but adding "sharp": sharp, upsharp, dupsharp, quupsharp, quipsharp... going to double-sharp eventually. | |||
The spectrum of qualities looks like this: | |||
< | * −6 = v<m = downquidminor (same as upquipmajor of the next lower degree) | ||
* −5 = <m = quidminor | |||
* −4 = ^<m = quudminor | |||
* −3 = vvvm = trudminor | |||
* −2 = vvm = dudminor | |||
* −1 = vm = downminor | |||
* 0 = m = minor | |||
* 1 = ^m = upminor | |||
* 2 = ^^m = dupminor | |||
* 3 = ^^^m = trupminor | |||
* 4 = v>m = quupminor | |||
* 5 = >m = quipminor = <<M = quidquidmajor | |||
* 6 = ^>m = upquipminor = ^<<M = quudquidmajor | |||
* 7 = ^^>m = dupquipminor = vvv<M = trudquidmajor | |||
* 8 = ^^^>m = trupquipminor = vv<M = dudquidmajor | |||
* 9 = v>>m = quudquipminor = v<M = downquidmajor | |||
* 10 = >>m = quipquipminor = <M = quidmajor | |||
* 11= ^<M = quudmajor | |||
* 12 = vvvM = trudmajor | |||
* 13 = vvM = dudmajor | |||
* 14 = vM = downmajor | |||
* 15 = M = major | |||
* 16 = ^M = upmajor | |||
* 17 = ^^M = dupmajor | |||
* 18 = ^^^M = trupmajor | |||
* 19 = v>M = quupmajor | |||
* 20 = >M = quipmajor | |||
* 21 = ^>M = upquipmajor (same as downquidminor of the next higher degree) | |||
Thus 4:5:6:7:9:11 = P1 vvvM3 P5 ^<m7 M9 ^^>11 = C vvvE G ^<Bb D ^^>F = Cvvv9(^<7)^^>11 = C trud-9 quud-7 dupquip-11 | |||
Alternatively, drops and lifts can be added to 53edo ups and downs notation to avoid large multiples of ups and downs and to keep the size of an up and a down more consistent with smaller edos. | |||
* 1\159 = / = lift | |||
* 2\159 = \^ = drop-up | |||
* 3\159 = ^ = up | |||
* 4\159 = /^ = lift-up | |||
* 5\159 = \^^ = drop-dup | |||
* 6\159 = ^^ = dup | |||
* 7\159 = /^^ = lift-dup | |||
* 8\159 = \vv# = drop-dudsharp | |||
* 9\159 = vv# = dudsharp | |||
* 10\159 = /vv# = lift-dudsharp | |||
* 11\159 = \v# = drop-downsharp | |||
* 12\159 = v# = downsharp | |||
* 13\159 = /v# = lift-downsharp | |||
* 14\159 = \# = drop-sharp | |||
* 15\159 = # = sharp | |||
The spectrum of qualities for this style looks like this: | |||
* -6 = vvm = dudminor (same as dupmajor of the next lower degree) | |||
* -5 = /vvm = lift-dudminor | |||
* -4 = \vm = drop-downminor | |||
* -3 = vm = downminor | |||
* -2 = /vm = lift-downminor | |||
* -1 = \m = drop-minor | |||
* 0 = m = minor | |||
* 1 = /m = lift-minor | |||
* 2 = \^m = drop-upminor | |||
* 3 = ^m = upminor | |||
* 4 = /^m = lift-upminor | |||
* 5 = \^^m = drop-dupminor = \vvvM = drop-trudmajor | |||
* 6 = ^^m = dupminor = vvvM = trudmajor | |||
* 7 = /^^m = lift-dupminor = /vvvM = lift-trudmajor | |||
* 8 = \^^^m = drop-trupminor = \vvM = drop-dudmajor | |||
* 9 = ^^^m = trupminor = vvM = dudmajor | |||
* 10 = /^^^m = lift-trupminor = /vvM = lift-dudmajor | |||
* 11 = \vM = drop-downmajor | |||
* 12 = vM = downmajor | |||
* 13 = /vM = lift-downmajor | |||
* 14 = \M = drop-major | |||
* 15 = M = major | |||
* 16 = /M = lift-major | |||
* 17 = \^M = drop-upmajor | |||
* 18 = ^M = upmajor | |||
* 19 = /^M = lift-upmajor | |||
* 20 = \^^M = drop-dupmajor | |||
* 21 = ^^M = dupmajor (same as dudminor of the next higher degree) | |||
===Advantages and disadvantages=== | === Advantages and disadvantages === | ||
One advantage of this notation is that it keeps the traditional naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and assigns them to values based on 3-limit JI. Thus this notation has some level of familiarity for musicians from a traditional background, while being simpler and more intuitive than the first system. This system avoids half-sharps and half-flats because the sharp and the flat are each 15 edosteps. 15 is an odd number, so there are strictly speaking no half-sharps in 159edo. | |||
One advantage of this notation is that it keeps the traditional naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and assigns them to values based on 3-limit JI. Thus this notation has some level of familiarity for musicians from a traditional background, while being simpler and more intuitive than the first system. This system avoids half-sharps and half-flats because the sharp and the flat are each 15 edosteps. 15 is an odd number, so there are strictly speaking no half-sharps in 159edo | |||
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== Sagittal notation == | |||
== Sagittal notation== | |||
The following table shows [[sagittal notation]] accidentals in one apotome for 159edo. | The following table shows [[sagittal notation]] accidentals in one apotome for 159edo. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
!Steps | |- | ||
|0 | ! Steps | ||
|1 | | 0 | ||
|2 | | 1 | ||
|3 | | 2 | ||
|4 | | 3 | ||
|5 | | 4 | ||
|6 | | 5 | ||
|7 | | 6 | ||
|8 | | 7 | ||
|9 | | 8 | ||
|10 | | 9 | ||
| 10 | |||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
|12 | | 12 | ||
|13 | | 13 | ||
|14 | | 14 | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Accidental | ! Accidental | ||
|[[File:Sagittal natural.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal natural.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal nai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal nai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sanai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sanai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal pai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal pai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal tai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal tai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal janai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal janai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal phai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal phai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal pakai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal pakai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal jatai.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal jatai.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp phao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp phao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp janao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp janao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp tao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp tao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp pao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp pao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp sanao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp sanao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp nao.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp nao.png]] | ||
|[[File:Sagittal sharp.png]] | | [[File:Sagittal sharp.png]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Advantages and disadvantages === | === Advantages and disadvantages === | ||
The advantages and disadvantages are largely the same as those of Sagittal notation in general. | The advantages and disadvantages are largely the same as those of Sagittal notation in general. | ||
== | == Syntonic–rastmic subchroma notation == | ||
The [[Talk:159edo notation #My Second Idea for a Notation System|second 159edo-notation system]] proposed by Aura eventually blossomed into [[syntonic–rastmic subchroma notation]], an expansion of [[neutral circle-of-fifths notation]] which turns out to be powerful enough to cover systems such as [[311edo]]. | |||
The [[Talk:159edo notation #My Second Idea for a Notation System|second 159edo-notation system]] proposed by Aura eventually blossomed into [[ | |||
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===Advantages and disadvantages === | === Advantages and disadvantages === | ||
By striking a good balance between the number of accidentals and their semantic consistency, Syntonic-Rastmic Subchroma notation manages to address the weaknesses of both Ups and Downs notation and Sagittal notation, and, as it's derived from Neutral Circle-of-Fifths notation- the de facto standard foundation for notation in 24edo- it is more easily accessible to microtonal musicians at the beginner level, all while retaining Helmholtz-Ellis notation's advantage of fixing the key notation problems that have plagued 53edo itself by means of accounting for the 2.3.5.11 subgroup in general and the syntonic comma specifically. | |||
{{Navbox notation}} | |||
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