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FloraC, you mentioned [[Archytas clan #Beatles]] and [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle]], can you please help me understand why? I followed all the other links and saw 2401/2400 mentioned somewhere there but found nothing the like in case of these both temperaments. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 15:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

: [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=10_27&limit=7 Beatles] 2401/2400 = (686/675)/(64/63)

: [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=31_41&limit=7 Miracle] 2401/2400 = (1029/1024)/(225/224)

: So 2401/2400 really is tempered out, though it's not one of the simpler commas. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:37, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

:: Thanks for the explanation. It's helpful to see some relation between our temperament descriptions and the temperament finder scripts. TBH I've still problems to follow the logic... --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 17:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

::: The logic is if you temper out two commas, you temper out all their linear combinations. I hope that makes sense to you. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:37, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

:::: Makes absolutely sense now. The ''linear'' combinations apply to the exponents. It's of course hard to see how combinations of fractions relate. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 05:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

== Clan or family? ==

Is this a clan or a family? Depending on the answer, I suggest to rename the page to [[Breedsmic clan]] or [[Breedsmic family]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 16:37, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

: I laid out the naming scheme in [[Talk:936/935]]. And there's even an enthusiastic further proposal in [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Things to do #13-Limit,17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages]], which I'm hesitant to engage in. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:10, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

:: Sorry I don't understand what you are saying here. I was just asking for the lemma of this page, its title. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 18:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

::: According to the name scheme, the answer is neither. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 04:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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 FloraC, you mentioned [[Archytas clan #Beatles]] and [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle]], can you please help me understand why? I followed all the other links and saw 2401/2400 mentioned somewhere there but found nothing the like in case of these both temperaments. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 15:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
+: [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=10_27&limit=7 Beatles] 2401/2400 = (686/675)/(64/63)
+: [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=31_41&limit=7 Miracle] 2401/2400 = (1029/1024)/(225/224)
+: So 2401/2400 really is tempered out, though it's not one of the simpler commas. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:37, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
+:: Thanks for the explanation. It's helpful to see some relation between our temperament descriptions and the temperament finder scripts. TBH I've still problems to follow the logic... --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 17:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
+::: The logic is if you temper out two commas, you temper out all their linear combinations. I hope that makes sense to you. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:37, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
+:::: Makes absolutely sense now. The ''linear'' combinations apply to the exponents. It's of course hard to see how combinations of fractions relate. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 05:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
+== Clan or family? ==
+Is this a clan or a family? Depending on the answer, I suggest to rename the page to [[Breedsmic clan]] or [[Breedsmic family]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 16:37, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
+: I laid out the naming scheme in [[Talk:936/935]]. And there's even an enthusiastic further proposal in [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Things to do #13-Limit,17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages]], which I'm hesitant to engage in. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:10, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
+:: Sorry I don't understand what you are saying here. I was just asking for the lemma of this page, its title. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 18:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
+::: According to the name scheme, the answer is neither. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 04:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC)