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| = ARCHIVED WIKISPACES DISCUSSION BELOW =
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| '''All discussion below is archived from the Wikispaces export in its original unaltered form.'''
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| == eliminating the second paragraph ==
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| I just edited the second paragraph here, which is like a little mini-tutorial on how to read mapping matrices that I believe Igs wrote, but I think it's out of place now that we have the General Theory pages and the non-mathematical Vals page. It's not that I don't appreciate what Igs was trying to do, but that paragraph definitely clutters up this page and would go better on the corresponding General Theory Vals page. Except I already have something similar on that page, so it's a bit redundant.
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| Any objections if I scrap it? I don't believe it's something Gene originally wrote.
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| - '''mbattaglia1''' December 16, 2011, 11:19:49 PM UTC-0800
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| I don't find the way it is written to be very clear, but it isn't intended for me. If you remove it, make sure what remains still makes sense, of course.
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| - '''genewardsmith''' December 17, 2011, 10:05:45 AM UTC-0800
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| == Cleaned up ==
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| I saw that Pete Kosmorsky added a few things, some of which weren't technically accurate. I removed the inaccuracies but cleared up a point involving the way the word "generator" was used in the first paragraph that I feel makes it more consistent with the rest of the article.
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| - '''mbattaglia1''' September 13, 2011, 08:43:37 AM UTC-0700
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| == What is a val? ==
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| (Please give a simple answer!)
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| The references to wikipedia help not very much.
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| We should have better a handful concise definitions from <strong>our</strong> point of view.
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| Thanks in advance for working on that!
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| - '''xenwolf''' June 30, 2011, 07:20:27 AM UTC-0700
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