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The '''porcupine family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[porcupine comma]], [[250/243]], also called the maximal diesis.  
The '''porcupine family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[porcupine comma]], [[250/243]], also called the maximal diesis.  
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Those all share the same generator with porcupine.  
Those all share the same generator with porcupine.  


[[#Nautilus|nautilus]] tempers out [[49/48]] and splits the generator in two. [[#Hedgehog|hedgehog]] tempers out [[50/49]] with a semi-octave period. Finally, [[#Ammonite|ammonite]] tempers out [[686/675]] and [[#Ceratitid|ceratitid]] tempers out [[1728/1715]]. Those split the generator in three.  
[[#Nautilus|Nautilus]] tempers out [[49/48]] and splits the generator in two. Hedgehog tempers out [[50/49]] with a semi-octave period. Finally, [[#Ammonite|ammonite]] tempers out [[686/675]] and [[#Ceratitid|ceratitid]] tempers out [[1728/1715]]. Those split the generator in three.  


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:  
* ''[[Oxygen]]'' → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Oxygen|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Oxygen]]'' (+21/20) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Oxygen|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Jamesbond]]'' → [[Whitewood family #Jamesbond|Whitewood family]]
* ''[[Hedgehog]]'' (+50/49 or 245/243) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Hedgehog|Stearnsmic clan]]
* ''[[Jamesbond]]'' (+25/24) → [[Whitewood family #Jamesbond|Whitewood family]]
 
The rest are considered in this page.


==== Subgroup extensions ====
==== Subgroup extensions ====
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Comma list: 55/54, 100/99
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99


Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 4 | 0 -3 -5 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 2 3 4 | 0 -3 -5 -4 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 0 4 | 0 -3 -5 0 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 2 3 0 4 | 0 -3 -5 0 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 0.303
Badness (Sintel): 0.303
==== Undecimation (no-7s) ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 512/507
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -2 0 5 | 0 6 10 8 -3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~88/65
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4791{{c}}, ~88/65 = 517.9845{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~88/65 = 518.1740{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 23bc, 30, 37, 44 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.21


== Septimal porcupine ==
== Septimal porcupine ==
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 2 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 66/65
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 66/65


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 2 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 100/99
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 6 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 2 4 6 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -17 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99, 196/195
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99, 196/195


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 1 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 20 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 2 4 1 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 20 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 100/99
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 2 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.08
Badness (Sintel): 1.08


===== Undecimation =====
==== Undecimation ====
This temperament is used by most patent edos that have septimal porcupine and tune 13 well.
This weak extension is used by most patent vals that support porcupine and tune 13 well.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99, 512/507
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99, 169/168
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 8 -4 8 2| 0 -6 -10 12 -8 3 }}


mapping generators: ~2, ~52/35
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 -2 8 0 5 | 0 6 10 -12 8 -3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~35/26


Optimal tunings:
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.4569{{c}}, ~35/26 = 517.9375{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/26 = 518.5822{{c}}


*WE: ~2 = 1198.457{{c}}, ~52/35 = 680.519{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 30, 37, 81bd }}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~52/35 = 681.418{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0|7, 30, 37, 44}}


Badness (Sintel): 1.679
Badness (Sintel): 1.68


== Opossum ==
== Opossum ==
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Comma list: 28/27, 55/54, 77/75
Comma list: 28/27, 55/54, 77/75


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 -9 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 -9 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 55/54, 66/65
Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 55/54, 66/65


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 4 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 -9 -4 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 4 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 -9 -4 -2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 225/224
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 225/224


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 5 4 | 0 -3 -5 -16 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 5 4 | 0 -3 -5 -16 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99
Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 5 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 -16 -4 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 5 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 -16 -4 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 525/512
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 525/512


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 1 4 | 0 -3 -5 13 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 1 4 | 0 -3 -5 13 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 100/99, 105/104
Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 100/99, 105/104


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 1 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 13 -4 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 1 4 3 | 0 -3 -5 13 -4 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 22/21, 36/35, 80/77
Comma list: 22/21, 36/35, 80/77


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -3 -5 -1 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -3 -5 -1 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 0.886
Badness (Sintel): 0.886
== Hedgehog ==
{{See also| Sensamagic clan | Stearnsmic clan }}
Hedgehog has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out [[245/243]], the sensamagic comma. It is a strong extension of [[BPS]] (as BPS has no 2 or sqrt(2)). Its ploidacot is diploid alpha-tricot.
22edo provides an obvious tuning, which happens to be the only [[patent val|patent-val]] tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative you could try the {{val| 146 232 338 411 }} (146bccdd) val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14-note mos gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22. A related temperament is [[echidna]], which offers much more accuracy. They merge on 22edo.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 50/49, 245/243
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 1 2 | 0 3 5 5 }}
: mapping generators: ~7/5, ~9/7
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~7/5 = 599.6061{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.3620{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.788 +3.737 -9.897 +7.197 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~7/5 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.4483{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +4.390 -9.072 +8.416 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 8d, 14c, 22 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.11
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 50/49, 55/54, 99/98
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 1 2 4 | 0 3 5 5 4 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 600.1133{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.4680{{c}}
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.4431{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8d, 14c, 22, 58ce }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.764
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 50/49, 55/54, 65/63, 99/98
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 1 2 4 3 | 0 3 5 5 4 6 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 600.3651{{c}}, ~9/7 = 436.1258{{c}}
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 436.0483{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8d, 14cf, 22 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.889
==== Urchin ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 50/49, 55/54, 66/65
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 1 2 4 6 | 0 3 5 5 4 2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 598.3303{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.8617{{c}}
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 436.3485{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14c, 22f }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.04
=== Hedgepig ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 50/49, 245/243, 385/384
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 1 2 12 | 0 3 5 5 -7 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 599.7917{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.2737{{c}}
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~9/7 = 435.4047{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.26
; Music
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20240624173512/http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/20120207-phobos-light-hedgehog14.mp3 ''Phobos Light''] by [[Chris Vaisvil]] – in [[hedgehog14|Hedgehog[14]]], 22edo tuning.


== Nautilus ==
== Nautilus ==
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Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 245/242
Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 245/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 91/90, 100/99
Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 91/90, 100/99


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 5 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -19 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 5 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -19 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 40/39, 49/48, 55/54, 66/65
Comma list: 40/39, 49/48, 55/54, 66/65


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 686/675
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 686/675


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -4 -7 -9 -4 | 0 9 15 19 12 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -7 -9 -4 | 0 9 15 19 12 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Comma list: 55/54, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -4 -7 -9 -4 -5 | 0 9 15 19 12 14 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -7 -9 -4 -5 | 0 9 15 19 12 14 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 352/343
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 352/343


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -9 -15 -4 -12 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -9 -15 -4 -12 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 55/54, 65/63, 100/99, 352/343
Comma list: 55/54, 65/63, 100/99, 352/343


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -9 -15 -4 -12 -7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -9 -15 -4 -12 -7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.85
Badness (Sintel): 1.85


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