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The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''kleismic family''' is [[15625/15552]], the kleisma, which is the amount by which a stack of six [[6/5|classical minor third]]s falls short of the [[3/1|3rd]] [[harmonic]].  
The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''kleismic family''' is [[15625/15552]], the kleisma, which is the amount by which a stack of six [[6/5|classical minor third]]s falls short of the [[3/1|3rd]] [[harmonic]].  
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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]] gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.  
==== Full 7-limit extensions ====
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.  


[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.  
[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.  
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Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.  
Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.  


The kleismic family boasts a very remarkable extension to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], which has further extensions with higher primes. These are listed at the bottom of this page, in [[#Subgroup extensions]].  
==== Other subgroup extensions ====
The main extension of note is a very remarkable extension to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], as the hemitwelfth, reached by three generator steps, can be interpreted as [[26/15]]. Notice 15625/15552 = ([[325/324]])⋅([[625/624]]) and 325/324 = (625/624)⋅([[676/675]]). The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of the temperament is {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}.
 
See [[#Subgroup extensions]].


== Catakleismic ==
== Catakleismic ==
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=== Diatessic ===
=== Diatessic ===
Diatessic may be described as {{nowrap| 121 & 140 }}} and is closely related to the Diatess tuning (generator: 505.727281 cents).
Diatessic may be described as {{nowrap| 121 & 140 }} and is closely related to the Diatess tuning (generator: 505.727281 cents).


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
For the high-limit version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[thunderclysmic]].
=== Kleismic (2.3.5.13) a.k.a. cata ===
=== Kleismic (2.3.5.13) a.k.a. cata ===
Hanson lends itself nicely to this extension in the 2.3.5.13 subgroup, as the hemitwelfth, reached by three generator steps, can be interpreted as [[26/15]]. Notice 15625/15552 = ([[325/324]])⋅([[625/624]]) and 325/324 = (625/624)⋅([[676/675]]). The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of the temperament is {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]]), [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]}. For the high-limit version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[thunderclysmic]].
The structure of the temperament as dividing 3/1 into 6 equal parts can be deduced completely from its [[S-expression]]-based comma list of {{nowrap| {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]} }}. Specifically, dividing 3/1 into two halves of ~26/15 is equivalent to dividing 4/3 into two halves of ~15/13, hence the [[semiparticular]] S13/S15 = ([[4/3|16/12]])/([[15/13]])<sup>2</sup>. From here, we notice that (26/15)/(13/9) = 6/5, so all that remains is dividing 13/9 into two 6/5's via the semiparticular S10/S12 = (13/9)/([[6/5|12/10]])<sup>2</sup>, hence explaining the mapping of the entire 2.3.5.13 subgroup.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 140, 193, 246 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 140, 193, 246 }}
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Hanson can be extended even further to the 2.3.5.13.37.41 subgroup while maintaining a rather low complexity and high accuracy.
Hanson can be extended even further to the 2.3.5.13.37.41 subgroup while maintaining a rather low complexity and high accuracy.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.13.37.41
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13.37


Comma list: 325/324, 481/480, 625/624
Comma list: 325/324, 481/480, 625/624
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Optimal tunings:
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2924{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0998{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2924{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0998{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0452{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0452{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 299l, 352fl, 405fl, 458fl, 511cfll, 564cffll }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 299l, 352fl, 405fl, 458fl, 511cfll, 564cffll }}
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Badness (Sintel): 0.223
Badness (Sintel): 0.223


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