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=Gravity=
The '''gravity family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[graviton]] ({{monzo|legend=1| -13 17 -6 }}, [[ratio]]: 129140163/128000000).  
The gravity family tempers out [[graviton|graviton]], the 5-limit comma 129140163/128000000 = |-13 17 -6>. The graviton equals (81/80)^4/(25/24), so that four 81/80 commas come to a chromatic semitone. The generator of gravity temperament is a grave fifth of 40/27, and hence the name. It is part of the Whitewood -> Mavila -> Dicot -> Porcupine -> Tetracot -> Amity -> ..... (Meantone) continuum, whereby (81/80)^n = 25/24.


Comma: 129140163/128000000
== Gravity ==
{{Main| Gravity }}


POTE generator: ~40/27 = 683.156
The [[generator]] for the gravity temperament is a grave fifth of [[~]][[40/27]], and hence the name. However, the functional generator is the acute fourth of ~[[27/20]], six of which reach the [[6/1|6th harmonic]]; the [[ploidacot]] for gravity is beta-hexacot. Gravity is part of the [[syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum]] with {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 6 }}, so it equates a [[2187/2048|Pythagorean apotome]] with a stack of six [[81/80|syntonic commas]].


Map: [<1 5 12|, <0 -6 -17|]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[58edo|58]], [[65edo|65]], [[137edo|137]], [[202edo|202]], [[267edo|267]], [[469edo|469]]
[[Comma list]]: 129140163/128000000


Badness: 0.0932
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -5 | 0 6 17 }}


=Harry=
: mapping generators: ~2, ~27/20
[[Harry]] temperament can be described as 58&72 temperament, tempering out 7-limit commas 2401/2400 and 19683/19600; 11-limit commas 243/242, 441/440 and 4000/3993, leading to a period of a half octave and a generator of minor semitone tempered between [[21/20]] and [[22/21]]. Harry temperament also equates 14/13 with 27/25 in the 13-limit, 17/16 with 18/17 and 13/11 with 20/17 in the 17-limit.


Commas: 2401/2400, 19683/19600
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1831{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.9226{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.183 -0.602 +0.456 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.8575{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.810 +0.263 }}


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.156
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, …, 51c, 58, 65, 137, 202, 267, 469 }}


Map: [<2 4 7 7|, <0 -6 -17 -10|]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.19


Wedgie: <<12 34 20 26 -2 -49||
=== Overview to extensions ===
Full 7-limit extensions of gravity include abergravity ({{nowrap| 58 & 65d }}), marvo ({{nowrap| 65d & 72 }}), zarvo ({{nowrap| 65 & 72 }}), gravid ({{nowrap| 58 & 65 }}), and harry ({{nowrap| 58 & 72 }}), all considered below. A notable subgroup extension is larry.


EDOs: 58, 72, 130, 202, 534
=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup (larry) ===
Gravity is most naturally thought of as a 2.3.5.11 subgroup temperament, which in terms of S-expressions is defined by equating S9 ([[81/80]]), S10 ([[100/99]]), and S11 ([[121/120]]). By tempering out S10/S11, [[4/3]] is split into three intervals of [[11/10]], and by tempering out S9/S11, [[3/2]] is split into two intervals of [[11/9]]. The overall structure therefore divides 6/1 into six generators of 27/20.


Badness: 0.0341
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11


==11-limit==
Comma list: 243/242, 4000/3993
Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 4000/3993


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.167
Subgrop-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 -3 | 0 6 17 15 }}


Map: [<2 4 7 7 9|, <0 -6 -17 -10 -15|]
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 0 -3 | 0 6 17 0 15 }}


EDOs: 58, 72, 130, 202
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0787{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.8677{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.8400{{c}}


Badness: 0.0159
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, …, 51ce, 58, 65, 137, 202 }}


==13-limit==
Badness (Sintel): 0.389
Commas: 243/242, 351/350, 364/363, 441/440


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.116
== Abergravity ==
Abergravity is the extension of 2.3.5.11-subgroup gravity with prime 7 by extending the streak [[121/120|S11]]~[[100/99|S10]]~[[81/80|S9]]~[[64/63|''S8'']], so that the generalized comma 121/120~100/99~81/80 discussed in [[#2.3.5.11 subgroup (larry)]] is equated with a shrunk [[~]][[64/63]], hence a flat-tending [[~]][[8/7]] is characteristic. It is the [[58edo|58]] & [[65edo|65d]] temperament, also supported by their [[val]] sum of 58 + 65d = [[123edo|123df]]. A sharp edo tuning of prime 7 (and hence a flat tuning of 8/7) is also possible with the extreme tuning [[51edo|51ce-edo]], in which [[1029/1024]] ([[S-expression|S7/S8]]) vanishes. (Note that while [[65edo]] doesn't appear in any of the optimal ET sequences, it is a very viable tuning if you like a sharp 7.)


Map: [<2 4 7 7 9 11|, <0 -6 -17 -10 -15 -26|]
An obvious extension to the 13-limit is by noticing the 'squeeze' of equated commas (S8, S9, S10, S11) as suggesting [[144/143]] ({{S|12}}) to be tempered out, which fits the 58 & 65d join, and this is intuitively confirmed by also tempering out [[847/845]] ([[S-expression|S11/S13]]) so that the spacing is made natural, but also because it tempers out [[352/351]] and [[351/350]] in the 13-limit as a natural extension for [[176/175]] ([[S-expression|S8/S10]]), their product. Arguably the best edo tuning for making sense of this spacing is [[58edo]], a great tuning for [[15-odd-limit]] where the distinction between [[12/11]]~[[13/12]] and [[14/13]]~[[15/14]] helps solidifying each other's identity. Alternatively, [[65edo]] gives a [[marvel]] tuning (16/15~15/14), and any tuning between them, such as [[123edo]], distinguishes 14/13, 15/14 and 16/15.


EDOs: 58, 72, 130
Abergravity was first discovered by [[User:Godtone|Godtone]] but left unnamed until being rediscovered and named by [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] in 2026 as a contraction of ''aberschismic'' and ''gravity''. Its S-expression-based comma list is {[[5120/5103|S8/S9]], [[8019/8000|S9/S10]], [[4000/3993|S10/S11]], ([[847/845|S11/S13]],) [[144/143|S12]], [[256/255|S16]]}.


Badness: 0.0130
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


==17-limit==
[[Comma list]]: 5120/5103, 177147/175000
Commas: 221/220, 243/242, 289/288, 351/350, 441/440


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.168
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -5 11 | 0 6 17 -19 }}


Map: [<2 4 7 7 9 11 9|, <0 -6 -17 -10 -15 -26 -6|]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.8184{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.6336{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.182 -0.972 +2.366 +2.137 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.1335{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.846 +4.956 +5.637 }}


EDOs: 58, 72, 130
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 51c, 58, 123d, 181cd, 239ccdd }}


Badness: 0.0127
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.46


=Gravid=
=== 11-limit ===
Commas: 126/125, 1605632/1594323
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 517.140
Comma list: 176/175, 243/242, 2560/2541


Map: [<1 -1 -5 -14|, <0 6 17 39|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 11 -3 | 0 6 17 -19 15 }}


Wedgie: <<6 17 39 13 45 43||
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.7370{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.5874{{c}}
: error map: {{val| -1.263 -1.168 +1.987 +2.120 +1.282 }}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.1165{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.744 +4.666 +5.961 +5.429 }}


EDOs: 7d, 58, 65, 123, 181c
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 51ce, 58, 123d, 181cde }}


Badness: 0.1312
Badness (Sintel): 1.56


==11-limit==
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 896/891
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 517.155
Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 243/242, 847/845


Map: [<1 -1 -5 -14 -3|, <0 6 17 39 15|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 11 -3 5 | 0 6 17 -19 15 -3 }}


EDOs: 7d, 58, 65, 123, 181ce
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5623{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.5280{{c}}
: error map: {{val| -1.438 -1.349 +1.851 +1.327 +0.916 +2.700 }}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.1346{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.853 +4.975 +5.617 +5.701 +8.069 }}


Badness: 0.0473
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 51ce, 58, 123df, 181cdeff, 239ccddeefff }}


=Zarvo=
Badness (Sintel): 1.14
Commas: 4375/4374, 33075/32768


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 516.702
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Map: [<1 -1 -5 14|, <0 6 17 -26|]
Comma list: 144/143, 170/169, 176/175, 243/242, 847/845


Wedgie: <<6 17 -26 13 -58 -108||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 11 -3 5 14 | 0 6 17 -19 15 -3 -23 }}


EDOs: 7, 65, 72
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.758{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.566{{c}}
: error map: {{val| -1.242 -1.316 +1.521 +2.755 +0.901 +3.564 -3.365 }}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.099{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.640 +4.373 +6.289 +5.171 +8.175 +1.762 }}


Badness: 0.0968
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 58, 123df }}


==11-limit==
Badness (Sintel): 1.25
Commas: 243/242, 385/384, 4000/3993


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 516.691
== Marvo ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Map: [<1 -1 -5 14 -3|, <0 6 17 -26 15|]
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 78125000/78121827


EDOs: 7, 65, 72
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -5 -17 | 0 6 17 46 }}


Badness: 0.0348
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6303{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.9658{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.630 -0.791 -1.047 +0.885 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.7131{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.676 -2.191 -0.024 }}


==13-limit==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 65d, 72, 353c, 425bc, 497bc, 569bcc }}
Commas: 169/168, 243/242, 325/324, 385/384


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 516.667
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.47


Map: [<1 -1 -5 14 -3 8|, <0 6 17 -26 15 -10|]
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


EDOs: 7, 65f, 72, 79
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 4000/3993


Badness: 0.0276
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 -17 -3 | 0 6 17 46 15 }}


[[Category:Theory]]
Optimal tunings:
[[Category:Temperament family]]
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5247{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.9253{{c}}
[[Category:Gravity]]
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.7142{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 65d, 72, 281, 353c, 425bc, 497bc }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.05
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 351/350, 1625/1617
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 -17 -3 -23 | 0 6 17 46 15 62 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4175{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.9102{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.7401{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 65d, 72, 137, 209, 281f }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.10
 
== Zarvo ==
Zarvo was named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, for it is similar to marvo, but with prime 7 mapped to -26 steps.<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101780.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Suggested names for the unclasified temperaments'']</ref>
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 33075/32768
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -5 14 | 0 6 17 -26 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.8048{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.0487{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.805 -0.468 -0.510 -0.825 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.7041{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.730 -2.344 -3.133 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 65, 72, 281d, 353cd, 425bcdd, 497bcdd }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.45
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 243/242, 385/384, 4000/3993
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 14 -3 | 0 6 17 -26 15 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7023{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.9937{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.6957{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 65, 72, 353cd }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.15
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 169/168, 243/242, 325/324, 385/384
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 14 -3 8 | 0 6 17 -26 15 -10 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.9333{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.0690{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.6698{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 65f, 72 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.14
 
== Gravid ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 1605632/1594323
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -5 -14 | 0 6 17 39 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.3413{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.8566{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.659 -0.157 +3.542 -2.196 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.1162{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.742 +4.662 -1.292 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 58, 123, 181c }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.32
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 126/125, 243/242, 896/891
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -5 -14 -3 | 0 6 17 39 15 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0523{{c}}, ~27/20 = 516.7466{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~27/20 = 517.1210{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 58, 123, 181ce }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.56
 
== Harry ==
{{Main| Harry }}
 
Harry adds the [[breedsma]], 2401/2400, and the [[cataharry comma]], 19683/19600, to the set of commas, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 58 & 72 }} temperament. The [[period]] is half an [[octave]], and the generator ~21/20. The ploidacot for harry is diploid delta-hexacot. Generator tunings of [[130edo|9\130]] or [[202edo|14\202]] are good choices. [[Mos]] of size 14, 16, 30, 44 or 58 are among the scale choices.
 
It becomes much more interesting as we move to the 11-limit, where we can add [[243/242]], [[441/440]] and [[540/539]] to the set of commas. 9\130 and especially 14\202 still make for good tuning choices.
 
Similar comments apply to the 13-limit, where we can add [[351/350]], [[364/363]], and [[729/728]] to the commas. 130edo is again a good tuning choice, but even better might be tuning the harmonic 7 justly, which can be done via a generator of 83.1174 [[cent]]s. 72 notes of harry gives plenty of room even for the 13-limit harmonies.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 19683/19600
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 4 7 7 | 0 -6 -17 -10 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~21/20
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~567/400 = 600.0856{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1679{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.171 -0.620 +0.431 +0.094 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~567/400 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1427{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.811 +0.261 -0.253 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14c, …, 58, 72, 130, 202, 534, 736b, 938b }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.862
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 4000/3993
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 4 7 7 9 | 0 -6 -17 -10 -15 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.0504{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1740{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1589{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14c, …, 58, 72, 130, 202 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.525
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 243/242, 351/350, 364/363, 441/440
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 4 7 7 9 11 | 0 -6 -17 -10 -15 -26 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/39 = 599.9967{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1160{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1169{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14cf, …, 58, 72, 130 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.539
 
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 221/220, 243/242, 289/288, 351/350, 441/440
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 4 7 7 9 11 9 | 0 -6 -17 -10 -15 -26 -6 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.1620{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1904{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~21/20 = 83.1482{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14cf, 58, 72, 130, 202g }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.645
 
== References ==
 
[[Category:Gravity family| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Temperament families]]
[[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]]