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=== Higher-limit JI ===
=== Higher-limit JI ===
84edo has fairly good approximation to higher [[prime harmonic]]s such as [[13/1|13]], [[19/1|19]], [[23/1|23]], [[29/1|29]], [[31/1|31]], 41, 43, 53, 59, 61, 73 and 89, so that it is for its size very performant for much of the 61-limit, with more off primes usually being sharp so that they can cancel opportunistically with other sharp harmonics. In fact, it is [[consistent]] in the no-11 no-17 no-27 no-37 no-47 no-49 no-51 no-55 65-odd-limit excepting only 1 inconsistent pair, 45/43 and 86/45, which are inconsistent by ~1.3{{cent}} (off by ~7.3{{cent}}), offering a truly vast inventory of harmony to draw from that has mostly been unexplored. This is especially true because its approximation powers do not end there: prime 11, due to its simplicity (and thus lesser tuning fidelity), is certainly usable (just causes some inconsistencies), and there are higher primes that are reasonably in-tune too when supported by context. The only missing primes are thus 17, 37, 47, 67, 71, 79 and 83, which except for 17 are all about 6 cents sharp, similar to the sharpness of prime 11, so that it somewhat makes up for these omissions by having a very accurate 22:37:47:67:71:79:83 chord, to which various additions are possible (though usually increasing the error as a result).
84edo has fairly good approximation to higher [[prime harmonic]]s such as [[13/1|13]], [[19/1|19]], [[23/1|23]], [[29/1|29]], [[31/1|31]], 41, 43, 53, 59, 61, 73 and 89, so that it is for its size very performant for much of the 61-limit, with more off primes usually being sharp so that they can cancel opportunistically with other sharp harmonics. In fact, it is [[consistent]] in the no-11 no-17 no-27 no-37 no-47 no-49 no-51 no-55 65-odd-limit excepting only 1 inconsistent pair, 45/43 and 86/45, which are inconsistent by ~0.13{{cent}} (off by ~7.3{{cent}}), offering a truly vast inventory of harmony to draw from that has mostly been unexplored. This is especially true because its approximation powers do not end there: prime 11, due to its simplicity (and thus lesser tuning fidelity), is certainly usable (just causes some inconsistencies), and there are higher primes that are reasonably in-tune too when supported by context. The only missing primes are thus 17, 37, 47, 67, 71, 79 and 83, which except for 17 are all about 6 cents sharp, similar to the sharpness of prime 11, so that it somewhat makes up for these omissions by having a very accurate 22:37:47:67:71:79:83 chord, to which various additions are possible (though usually increasing the error as a result).


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 }}
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| +0.498
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| 0.531
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| 2.3.5.7
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| 225/224, 1728/1715, 78732/78125
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 }}
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| 0.769
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| 225/224, 351/350, 640/637, 1701/1690
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 311 }}
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| −0.013
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| 0.754
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| 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331, 1728/1715
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 291 }} (84)
| −0.225
| −0.225
| 1.003
| 1.003
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| 144/143, 225/224, 351/350, 441/440, 975/968
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 291 311 }} (84)
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| −0.292
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| 0.928
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| 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 78732/78125
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| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 290 }} (84e)
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| +0.601
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| 1.151
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| 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 275/273, 1701/1690
| {{mapping| 84 133 195 236 290 311 }} (84e)
| {{Mapping| 84 133 195 236 290 311 }} (84e)
| +0.396
| +0.396
| 1.146
| 1.146
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| 1
| 19\84
| 19\84
| 271.43
| 271.4
| 7/6
| 7/6
| [[Orwell]] (84e) / [[newspeak]] (84)
| [[Orwell]] (84e) / [[newspeak]] (84)
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| 1
| 25\84
| 25\84
| 357.14
| 357.1
| 768/625
| 768/625
| [[Dodifo]]
| [[Dodifo]]
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| 1
| 27\84
| 27\84
| 385.71
| 385.7
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| 5/4
| [[Mutt]]
| [[Mutt]]
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| 1
| 31\84
| 31\84
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| 442.9
| 125/81
| 162/125
| [[Sensei]]
| [[Sensei]]
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
| 41\84
| 41\84
| 585.71
| 585.7
| 7/5
| 7/5
| [[Merman]]
| [[Merman]]
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| 2
| 5\84
| 5\84
| 71.43
| 71.4
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| 25/24
| [[Narayana]]
| [[Narayana]]
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| 2
| 11\84
| 11\84
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| 157.1
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| 35/32
| [[Bison]]
| [[Bison]]
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| 2
| 13\84
| 13\84
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| 185.7
| 10/9
| 10/9
| [[Secant]]
| [[Secant]]
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| 3
| 11\84
| 11\84
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| 157.1
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| 35/32
| [[Nessafof]]
| [[Nessafof]]
|-
| 6
| 5\84
| 71.4
| 25/24
| [[Trivish]]
|-
|-
| 7
| 7
| 5\84
| 5\84
| 500.00<br>(14.29)
| 14.3
| 4/3<br>(81/80)
| 81/80
| [[Absurdity]]
| [[Absurdity]]
|-
|-
| 12
| 12
| 27\84<br>(1\84)
| 1\84
| 385.71<br>(14.29)
| 14.3
| 5/4<br>(126/125)
| 126/125
| [[Compton]]
| [[Compton]]
|-
| 12
| 2\84
| 28.6
| 64/63
| [[Catler]] (84c)
|-
|-
| 21
| 21
| 41\84<br>(1\84)
| 1\84)
| 585.71<br>(14.29)
| 14.3
| 91875/65536<br>(126/125)
| 126/125
| [[Akjayland]]
| [[Akjayland]]
|-
|-
| 28
| 28
| 49\84<br>(1\84)
| 1\84
| 500.00<br>(14.29)
| 14.3
| 4/3<br>(105/104)
| 105/104
| [[Oquatonic]]
| [[Oquatonic]]
|}
|}
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
<nowiki/>* In [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal-generator form]]


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
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; [[Bryan Deister]]
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sqkxrmwggr0 ''microtonal improvisation in 84edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sqkxrmwggr0 ''microtonal improvisation in 84edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qu6UIA2NmmQ ''84edo groove''] (2026)


; [[Eliora]]
; [[Eliora]]
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