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* [[Muggles]] (+525/512) → [[Magic family #Muggles|Magic family]]
* [[Muggles]] (+525/512) → [[Magic family #Muggles|Magic family]]
* [[Valentine]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Valentine|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Valentine]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Valentine|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Diaschismic]]'' (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Septimal diaschismic|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Diaschismic]] (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Septimal diaschismic|Diaschismic family]]
* ''[[Wollemia]]'' (+2240/2187) → [[Tetracot family #Wollemia|Tetracot family]]
* [[Wollemia]] (+2240/2187) → [[Tetracot family #Wollemia|Tetracot family]]
* ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Coblack]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Trisedodge family #Coblack|Trisedodge family]] / [[Cloudy clan #Coblack|cloudy clan]]
* ''[[Coblack]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Trisedodge family #Coblack|Trisedodge family]] / [[Cloudy clan #Coblack|cloudy clan]]
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* ''[[Muscogee]]'' (+33756345/33554432) → [[Mabila family #Muscogee|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Muscogee]]'' (+33756345/33554432) → [[Mabila family #Muscogee|Mabila family]]


Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} 126/125 × 12/7}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is actually three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, contrary to the popular belief that it is four stacked minor thirds.  
Considered below are myna, nusecond, oolong, vines, kumonga, cypress, bisemidim, casablanca, amigo, gilead, supersensi, and cobalt, sorted by increasing [[badness]].
 
Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} (126/125)⋅(12/7)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is actually three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, contrary to the popular belief that it is four stacked minor thirds.  


== Myna ==
== Myna ==
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Mynic]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Mynic]].''


7-limit myna is naturally found by establishing a structure of thirds, by making [[7/6]]–[[6/5]]–[[49/40]]–[[5/4]]–[[9/7]] all equidistant (the distances between which are [[36/35]], [[49/48]], and [[50/49]]). 11-limit myna then arises from equating this neutral third to [[11/9]]. Myna's characteristic feature is that the pental thirds are tuned outwards so that the chroma between them ([[25/24]]) is twice the size of the interval between the pental and septimal thirds ([[36/35]]), leaving space for a neutral third in between. In that sense, it is opposed to [[keemic temperaments]], where the chroma between the pental thirds is the same as the distance between the pental and septimal thirds.
7-limit myna is naturally found by establishing a structure of thirds, by making [[7/6]]–[[6/5]]–[[49/40]]–[[5/4]]–[[9/7]] all equidistant (the distances between which are [[36/35]], [[49/48]], and [[50/49]]). [[11-limit]] myna then arises from equating this neutral third to [[11/9]]. Myna's characteristic feature is that the pental thirds are tuned outwards so that the chroma between them ([[25/24]]) is twice the size of the interval between the pental and septimal thirds ([[36/35]]). In that sense, it is opposed to [[keemic temperaments]], in particular [[quasitemp]], where the distance between the pental and septimal thirds is the same as the chroma between the pental thirds and different from the septimal dieses.  


In terms of commas tempered, in addition to 126/125, myna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 31 }} temperament. It has 6/5 as a generator, and [[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round amounts in cents may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11 and 13 limits.
In terms of vanishing commas, in addition to 126/125, myna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 31 }} temperament, and has a [[ploidacot]] signature of beta-decacot. It has [[~]][[6/5]] as a generator.
 
[[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round cent values may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11- and 13-limit.


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* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~6/5 = {{monzo| 1/10 1/10 0 0}}
* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~6/5 = {{monzo| 1/10 1/10 0 0}}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 0 1 0 0 | 9/10 9/10 0 0 | 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 0 1 0 0 | 9/10 9/10 0 0 | 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 31, 58, 89, 236cc }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 31, 58, 89, 236cc }}
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== Vines ==
== Vines ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Vines]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Vines]].''
Vines may be described as the {{nowrap| 46 & 50 }} temperament. It has a [[semi-octave]] period and a [[~]][[6/5]] generator. Eight generators minus three periods give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]], so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is diploid gamma-octacot. [[96edo]] in the 96d val may be recommended as a tuning.


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Badness (Sintel): 1.23
Badness (Sintel): 1.23
== Xenial ==
{{Main| Xenial }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Xenial]].''
Named by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in 2026, xenial may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 70 }} temperament, splitting the [[8/3|perfect eleventh]] into nine equal parts, each for ~[[10/9]]. Equivalently, a stack of nine [[9/5]]s is equated with the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] above 7 [[2/1|octave]]s, so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is zeta-enneacot, and from this it derives its name.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 177147/175616
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 -12 -25 | 0 9 17 33 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0095{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1532{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.010 -1.634 +3.176 -1.009 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1456{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.644 +3.162 -1.021 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.13
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 16384/16335
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 | 0 9 17 33 -22 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6137{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.8717{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1915{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.31
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 729/728
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8559{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0911{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2102{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.98
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6970{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9792{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2323{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.06
=== 19-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 171/170, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7741{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0334{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2230{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.03
=== 23-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 126/125, 162/161, 169/168, 171/170, 208/207, 221/220, 231/230
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 2 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6628{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9415{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2245{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.93


== Kumonga ==
== Kumonga ==
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Badness (Sintel): 1.19
Badness (Sintel): 1.19


== Cypress ==
== Paraguay ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Cypress]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Parakleismic]].''
 
Named by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in 2026, paraguay tempers out [[12005/11664]] and may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 61 }} temperament. It is a variant of [[parakleismic]], mapping 7th harmonic to 16 generators.


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[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 19683/19208
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 12005/11664


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -7 -12 | 0 12 17 27 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -8 -8 -9 | 0 13 14 16 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/3


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1652{{c}}, ~196/135 = 658.2622{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6421{{c}}, ~5/3 = 885.3232{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.165 -3.634 +2.988 +2.272 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.642 +2.110 +3.074 -9.434 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~196/135 = 658.1814{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.8949{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.779 +2.769 +2.071 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.678 +2.214 -10.508 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11cd, 20cd, 31 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 61, 80d, 99d }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.53
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.47


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 12005/11664
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -8 -9 2 | 0 13 14 16 2 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7783{{c}}, ~5/3 = 883.6140{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 885.1383{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 42e, 61e }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 2.49
 
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 56/55, 91/90, 100/99, 343/338


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 | 0 12 17 27 30 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -8 -9 2 -14 | 0 13 14 16 2 24 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1117{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2892{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1197.7848{{c}}, ~5/3 = 883.6431{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2345{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 885.1623{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 11cdee, 20cde, 31, 144cd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 42ef, 61e }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.41
Badness (Sintel): 1.86


=== 13-limit ===
==== Uruguay ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Comma list: 56/55, 78/77, 100/99, 1183/1152


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 -10 | 0 12 17 27 30 25 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -8 -9 2 0 | 0 13 14 16 2 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4328{{c}}, ~22/15 = 657.9111{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6132{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.7325{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.1886{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 885.0005{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 11cdeef, 20cdef, 31 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 42e }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.56
Badness (Sintel): 2.51


== Bisemidim ==
== Bisemidim ==
Bisemidim tempers out [[118098/117649]] and may be described as the {{nowrap| 50 & 58 }} temperament. It has a [[semi-octave]] period and a [[~]][[49/45]] generator. Nine generators minus a period give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]], so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is diploid alpha-enneacot. [[108edo]] and [[166edo]] in the 166cef val may be recommended as tunings.
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Badness (Sintel): 0.987
Badness (Sintel): 0.987
== Cypress ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Cypress]].''
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 19683/19208
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -7 -12 | 0 12 17 27 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1652{{c}}, ~196/135 = 658.2622{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.165 -3.634 +2.988 +2.272 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~196/135 = 658.1814{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.779 +2.769 +2.071 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11cd, 20cd, 31 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.53
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 | 0 12 17 27 30 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1117{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2892{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.2345{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 11cdee, 20cde, 31, 144cd }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.41
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 -10 | 0 12 17 27 30 25 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4328{{c}}, ~22/15 = 657.9111{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/15 = 658.1886{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 11cdeef, 20cdef, 31 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.56


== Casablanca ==
== Casablanca ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Casablanca]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Casablanca]].''


Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma [[823543/819200]] and also [[589824/588245]], and may be described as {{nowrap| 31 & 73 }}. 61\135 or 75\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note [[mos scale]]s are available.
Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma [[823543/819200]] and also [[589824/588245]], and may be described as {{nowrap| 31 & 73 }} with a [[ploidacot]] signature of eta-19-cot. 61\135 or 75\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note [[mos scale]]s are available.


It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the [[~]][[48/35]] generator is particularly interesting; like [[15/14]] and [[21/20]], it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads.  
It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the [[~]][[48/35]] generator is particularly interesting; like [[15/14]] and [[21/20]], it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads.  
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== Supersensi ==
== Supersensi ==
Supersensi may be described as {{nowrap| 8d & 43 }}. It has supermajor third as a generator like [[sensi]], but the no-fives comma [[17496/16807]] rather than [[245/243]] tempered out.
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2022, supersensi tempers out the no-fives comma [[17496/16807]], and may be described as {{nowrap| 8d & 43 }}. It has a ultramajor third generator, which is sharper than the generator for [[sensi]], hence the name. Its [[ploidacot]] is epsilon-15-cot.  


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== Cobalt ==
== Cobalt ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[27th-octave temperaments #Cobalt]].''
Cobalt has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539 as in the [[aplonis]] temperament. It may be described as {{nowrap| 27 & 81 }}.  
Cobalt has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539 as in the [[aplonis]] temperament. It may be described as {{nowrap| 27 & 81 }}.  


The name of the cobalt temperament comes from the 27th element.
Cobalt was named by [[Xenllium]] in 2022 after the 27th element.


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7