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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
57edo is an excellent tuning for the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 [[just intonation subgroup]]. One way to describe 57edo is that it has a [[5-limit]] part consisting of three [[ring number|ring]]s of 19edo, plus a no-threes no-fives part which is much more accurate. | 57edo is an excellent tuning for the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 [[just intonation subgroup]]. One way to describe 57edo is that it has a [[5-limit]] part consisting of three [[ring number|ring]]s of [[19edo]], plus a no-threes no-fives part which is much more accurate. | ||
Using the full prime-limit [[patent val]], the equal temperament tempers out [[81/80]], [[1029/1024]], and [[3125/3072]] in the 7-limit; and [[99/98]], [[385/384]], [[441/440]], and [[625/616]] in the [[11-limit]]. | Using the full prime-limit [[patent val]], the equal temperament tempers out [[81/80]], [[1029/1024]], and [[3125/3072]] in the 7-limit; and [[99/98]], [[385/384]], [[441/440]], and [[625/616]] in the [[11-limit]]. A good generator to exploit the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 aspect of 57 is the approximate [[11/8]], which is 26\57. This gives the [[19-limit]] 46 & 57 temperament [[heinz]]. It can also be used to tune [[mothra]] as well as [[trismegistus]]. | ||
A good generator to exploit the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 aspect of 57 is the approximate [[11/8]], which is 26\57. This gives the [[19-limit]] 46 & 57 temperament [[heinz]]. It can also be used to tune [[mothra]] as well as [[trismegistus]]. | |||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|57}} | {{Harmonics in equal|57}} | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|57|intervals=odd|columns=11|prec=2|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of odd harmonics in 57edo (continued)}} | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
57edo contains [[3edo]] and [[19edo]] as subsets. | 57edo contains [[3edo]] and [[19edo]] as subsets. Tripling 57edo yields [[171edo]], which corrects the 3rd and 5th harmonics. | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 center- | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 center-4 center-5" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! # | ! # | ||
! [[Cent]]s | ! [[Cent]]s | ||
! [[ | ! Approximate ratios* | ||
! [[ | ! [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Ups and downs notation]]<br>(Flat fifth 11\19) | ||
! [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Ups and downs notation]]<br>(Sharp fifth 34\57) | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0.00 | | 0.00 | ||
|[[1/1]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=0}} | | {{UDnote|step=0}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=0}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=0}} | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 21.05 | | 21.05 | ||
| | |||
| {{UDnote|step=1}} | | {{UDnote|step=1}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=1}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=1}} | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 42.11 | | 42.11 | ||
| | |||
| {{UDnote|step=2}} | | {{UDnote|step=2}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=2}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=2}} | ||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 63.16 | | 63.16 | ||
|[[29/28]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=3}} | | {{UDnote|step=3}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=3}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=3}} | ||
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| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 84.21 | | 84.21 | ||
|[[20/19]], [[21/20]], [[22/21]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=4}} | | {{UDnote|step=4}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=4}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=4}} | ||
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| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 105.26 | | 105.26 | ||
|[[17/16]], [[33/31]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=5}} | | {{UDnote|step=5}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=5}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=5}} | ||
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| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 126.32 | | 126.32 | ||
|[[14/13]], ''[[16/15]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=6}} | | {{UDnote|step=6}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=6}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=6}} | ||
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| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 147.37 | | 147.37 | ||
|[[12/11]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=7}} | | {{UDnote|step=7}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=7}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=7}} | ||
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| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 168.42 | | 168.42 | ||
|[[11/10]], [[32/29]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=8}} | | {{UDnote|step=8}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=8}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=8}} | ||
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| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 189.47 | | 189.47 | ||
|[[19/17]], [[29/26]],<br>[[10/9]], ''[[9/8]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=9}} | | {{UDnote|step=9}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=9}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=9}} | ||
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| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 210.53 | | 210.53 | ||
|[[26/23]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=10}} | | {{UDnote|step=10}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=10}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=10}} | ||
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| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 231.58 | | 231.58 | ||
|[[8/7]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=11}} | | {{UDnote|step=11}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=11}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=11}} | ||
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| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 252.63 | | 252.63 | ||
|[[22/19]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=12}} | | {{UDnote|step=12}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=12}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=12}} | ||
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| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 273.68 | | 273.68 | ||
|[[7/6]], [[34/29]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=13}} | | {{UDnote|step=13}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=13}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=13}} | ||
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| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 294.74 | | 294.74 | ||
|[[19/16]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=14}} | | {{UDnote|step=14}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=14}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=14}} | ||
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| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 315.79 | | 315.79 | ||
|[[6/5]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=15}} | | {{UDnote|step=15}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=15}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=15}} | ||
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| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 336.84 | | 336.84 | ||
|[[17/14]], [[28/23]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=16}} | | {{UDnote|step=16}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=16}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=16}} | ||
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| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 357.89 | | 357.89 | ||
|[[16/13]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=17}} | | {{UDnote|step=17}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=17}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=17}} | ||
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| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 378.95 | | 378.95 | ||
|[[5/4]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=18}} | | {{UDnote|step=18}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=18}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=18}} | ||
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| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 400.00 | | 400.00 | ||
|[[24/19]], [[29/23]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=19}} | | {{UDnote|step=19}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=19}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=19}} | ||
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| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 421.05 | | 421.05 | ||
|[[14/11]], ''[[9/7]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=20}} | | {{UDnote|step=20}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=20}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=20}} | ||
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| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 442.11 | | 442.11 | ||
|[[22/17]], [[31/24]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=21}} | | {{UDnote|step=21}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=21}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=21}} | ||
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| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 463.16 | | 463.16 | ||
|[[17/13]], [[21/16]], [[38/29]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=22}} | | {{UDnote|step=22}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=22}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=22}} | ||
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| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 484.21 | | 484.21 | ||
|[[33/25]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=23}} | | {{UDnote|step=23}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=23}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=23}} | ||
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| 24 | | 24 | ||
| 505.26 | | 505.26 | ||
|[[4/3]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=24}} | | {{UDnote|step=24}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=24}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=24}} | ||
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| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 526.32 | | 526.32 | ||
|[[19/14]], [[42/31]], [[23/17]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=25}} | | {{UDnote|step=25}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=25}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=25}} | ||
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| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 547.37 | | 547.37 | ||
|[[11/8]], [[26/19]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=26}} | | {{UDnote|step=26}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=26}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=26}} | ||
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| 27 | | 27 | ||
| 568.42 | | 568.42 | ||
|[[25/18]], [[32/23]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=27}} | | {{UDnote|step=27}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=27}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=27}} | ||
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| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 589.47 | | 589.47 | ||
|[[31/22]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=28}} | | {{UDnote|step=28}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=28}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=28}} | ||
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| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 610.53 | | 610.53 | ||
|[[44/31]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=29}} | | {{UDnote|step=29}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=29}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=29}} | ||
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| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 631.58 | | 631.58 | ||
|[[23/16]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=30}} | | {{UDnote|step=30}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=30}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=30}} | ||
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| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 652.63 | | 652.63 | ||
|[[16/11]], [[19/13]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=31}} | | {{UDnote|step=31}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=31}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=31}} | ||
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| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 673.68 | | 673.68 | ||
|[[28/19]], [[31/21]], [[34/23]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=32}} | | {{UDnote|step=32}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=32}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=32}} | ||
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| 33 | | 33 | ||
| 694.74 | | 694.74 | ||
|[[3/2]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=33}} | | {{UDnote|step=33}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=33}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=33}} | ||
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| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 715.79 | | 715.79 | ||
|[[50/33]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=34}} | | {{UDnote|step=34}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=34}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=34}} | ||
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| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 736.84 | | 736.84 | ||
|[[26/17]], [[32/21]], [[29/19]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=35}} | | {{UDnote|step=35}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=35}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=35}} | ||
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| 36 | | 36 | ||
| 757.89 | | 757.89 | ||
|[[17/11]], [[31/20]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=36}} | | {{UDnote|step=36}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=36}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=36}} | ||
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| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 778.95 | | 778.95 | ||
|[[11/7]], ''[[14/9]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=37}} | | {{UDnote|step=37}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=37}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=37}} | ||
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| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 800.00 | | 800.00 | ||
|[[19/12]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=38}} | | {{UDnote|step=38}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=38}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=38}} | ||
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| 39 | | 39 | ||
| 821.05 | | 821.05 | ||
|[[8/5]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=39}} | | {{UDnote|step=39}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=39}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=39}} | ||
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| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 842.11 | | 842.11 | ||
|[[13/8]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=40}} | | {{UDnote|step=40}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=40}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=40}} | ||
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| 41 | | 41 | ||
| 863.16 | | 863.16 | ||
|[[23/14]], [[28/17]], [[33/20]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=41}} | | {{UDnote|step=41}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=41}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=41}} | ||
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| 42 | | 42 | ||
| 884.21 | | 884.21 | ||
|[[5/3]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=42}} | | {{UDnote|step=42}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=42}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=42}} | ||
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| 43 | | 43 | ||
| 905.26 | | 905.26 | ||
|[[32/19]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=43}} | | {{UDnote|step=43}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=43}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=43}} | ||
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| 44 | | 44 | ||
| 926.32 | | 926.32 | ||
|[[12/7]], [[29/17]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=44}} | | {{UDnote|step=44}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=44}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=44}} | ||
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| 45 | | 45 | ||
| 947.37 | | 947.37 | ||
|[[19/11]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=45}} | | {{UDnote|step=45}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=45}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=45}} | ||
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| 46 | | 46 | ||
| 968.42 | | 968.42 | ||
|[[7/4]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=46}} | | {{UDnote|step=46}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=46}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=46}} | ||
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| 47 | | 47 | ||
| 989.47 | | 989.47 | ||
|[[23/13]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=47}} | | {{UDnote|step=47}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=47}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=47}} | ||
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| 48 | | 48 | ||
| 1010.53 | | 1010.53 | ||
|[[34/19]], [[52/29]],<br>[[9/5]], ''[[16/9]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=48}} | | {{UDnote|step=48}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=48}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=48}} | ||
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| 49 | | 49 | ||
| 1031.58 | | 1031.58 | ||
|[[20/11]], [[29/16]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=49}} | | {{UDnote|step=49}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=49}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=49}} | ||
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| 50 | | 50 | ||
| 1052.63 | | 1052.63 | ||
|[[11/6]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=50}} | | {{UDnote|step=50}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=50}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=50}} | ||
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| 51 | | 51 | ||
| 1073.68 | | 1073.68 | ||
|[[13/7]], ''[[15/8]]'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=51}} | | {{UDnote|step=51}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=51}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=51}} | ||
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| 52 | | 52 | ||
| 1094.74 | | 1094.74 | ||
|[[32/17]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=52}} | | {{UDnote|step=52}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=52}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=52}} | ||
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| 53 | | 53 | ||
| 1115.79 | | 1115.79 | ||
|[[19/10]], [[21/11]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=53}} | | {{UDnote|step=53}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=53}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=53}} | ||
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| 54 | | 54 | ||
| 1136.84 | | 1136.84 | ||
|[[56/29]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=54}} | | {{UDnote|step=54}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=54}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=54}} | ||
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| 55 | | 55 | ||
| 1157.89 | | 1157.89 | ||
| | |||
| {{UDnote|step=55}} | | {{UDnote|step=55}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=55}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=55}} | ||
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| 56 | | 56 | ||
| 1178.95 | | 1178.95 | ||
| | |||
| {{UDnote|step=56}} | | {{UDnote|step=56}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=56}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=56}} | ||
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| 57 | | 57 | ||
| 1200.00 | | 1200.00 | ||
|[[2/1]] | |||
| {{UDnote|step=57}} | | {{UDnote|step=57}} | ||
| {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=57}} | | {{UDnote|fifth=34|step=57}} | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki>*</nowiki> As a 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23.29.31-subgroup temperament, in ''italics'' if inconsistent | |||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== | === Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation === | ||
57edo can be notated using [[Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation]]: | |||
{{ | {{Sharpness-sharp3-szg}} | ||
Here, a sharp raises by three steps, and a flat lowers by three steps, so arrows can be used to fill in the gap. If the arrows are taken to have their own layer of enharmonic spellings, some notes may be best spelled with double arrows. | Here, a sharp raises by three steps, and a flat lowers by three steps, so arrows can be used to fill in the gap. If the arrows are taken to have their own layer of enharmonic spellings, some notes may be best spelled with double arrows. | ||
=== Kite's ups and downs notation === | |||
Spoken as up, downsharp, sharp, upsharp, etc. Note that downsharp can be respelled as dup (double-up), and upflat as dud. | |||
{{Ups and downs sharpness}} | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | === Sagittal notation === | ||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as | This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as edos [[50edo #Sagittal notation|50]], [[64edo #Sagittal notation|64]], and [[71edo #Sagittal notation|71b]], and is a superset of the notation for [[19edo #Sagittal notation|19edo]]. | ||
==== Evo flavor ==== | ==== Evo flavor ==== | ||
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</imagemap> | </imagemap> | ||
In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this | In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo. | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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[[Category:Heinz]] | [[Category:Heinz]] | ||
[[Category:Mothra]] | [[Category:Mothra]] | ||
{{todo|add rank 2 temperaments table | {{todo|add rank 2 temperaments table}} | ||
== Instruments == | |||
Since 57edo contains [[19edo]] as a non-trivial subset, it would be possible to use three 19edo instruments tuned 1\57 apart from each other to play the full gamut of 57edo. | |||
A [[Lumatone mapping for 57edo]] is available. | |||
== Music == | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NZvSgS3ryY ''57edo improv''] (2025) | |||
* ''Prelude in 57edo'' (2025) (switches Lumatone mapping between sections) | |||
** [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FylRB5MGBz4 ''Part 1 (short clip)''] | |||
** [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yVv0s8t--pg ''Part 2 (short clip)''] | |||
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH2QkHqVb2c ''Whole composition''] (but no view of Lumatone) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MTMRlRxRbjQ ''57edo groove''] (2025) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:49, 12 May 2026
| ← 56edo | 57edo | 58edo → |
57 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 57edo or 57ed2), also called 57-tone equal temperament (57tet) or 57 equal temperament (57et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 57 equal parts of about 21.1 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/57, or the 57th root of 2.
Theory
57edo is an excellent tuning for the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 just intonation subgroup. One way to describe 57edo is that it has a 5-limit part consisting of three rings of 19edo, plus a no-threes no-fives part which is much more accurate.
Using the full prime-limit patent val, the equal temperament tempers out 81/80, 1029/1024, and 3125/3072 in the 7-limit; and 99/98, 385/384, 441/440, and 625/616 in the 11-limit. A good generator to exploit the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 aspect of 57 is the approximate 11/8, which is 26\57. This gives the 19-limit 46 & 57 temperament heinz. It can also be used to tune mothra as well as trismegistus.
Odd harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | -7.22 | -7.37 | -0.40 | +6.62 | -3.95 | +1.58 | +6.47 | +0.31 | -2.78 | -7.62 | +3.30 |
| Relative (%) | -34.3 | -35.0 | -1.9 | +31.4 | -18.8 | +7.5 | +30.7 | +1.5 | -13.2 | -36.2 | +15.7 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
90 (33) |
132 (18) |
160 (46) |
181 (10) |
197 (26) |
211 (40) |
223 (52) |
233 (5) |
242 (14) |
250 (22) |
258 (30) | |
| Harmonic | 25 | 27 | 29 | 31 | 33 | 35 | 37 | 39 | 41 | 43 | 45 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +6.32 | -0.60 | +2.00 | -8.19 | +9.88 | -7.77 | +1.29 | -5.64 | -8.01 | -6.25 | -0.75 |
| Relative (%) | +30.0 | -2.9 | +9.5 | -38.9 | +47.0 | -36.9 | +6.1 | -26.8 | -38.0 | -29.7 | -3.6 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
265 (37) |
271 (43) |
277 (49) |
282 (54) |
288 (3) |
292 (7) |
297 (12) |
301 (16) |
305 (20) |
309 (24) |
313 (28) | |
Subsets and supersets
57edo contains 3edo and 19edo as subsets. Tripling 57edo yields 171edo, which corrects the 3rd and 5th harmonics.
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate ratios* | Ups and downs notation (Flat fifth 11\19) |
Ups and downs notation (Sharp fifth 34\57) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.00 | 1/1 | D | D |
| 1 | 21.05 | ^D, ^E♭♭♭ | ^D, E♭ | |
| 2 | 42.11 | vD♯, vE♭♭ | ^^D, ^E♭ | |
| 3 | 63.16 | 29/28 | D♯, E♭♭ | ^3D, ^^E♭ |
| 4 | 84.21 | 20/19, 21/20, 22/21 | ^D♯, ^E♭♭ | ^4D, ^3E♭ |
| 5 | 105.26 | 17/16, 33/31 | vD𝄪, vE♭ | ^5D, ^4E♭ |
| 6 | 126.32 | 14/13, 16/15 | D𝄪, E♭ | v4D♯, v5E |
| 7 | 147.37 | 12/11 | ^D𝄪, ^E♭ | v3D♯, v4E |
| 8 | 168.42 | 11/10, 32/29 | vD♯𝄪, vE | vvD♯, v3E |
| 9 | 189.47 | 19/17, 29/26, 10/9, 9/8 |
E | vD♯, vvE |
| 10 | 210.53 | 26/23 | ^E, ^F♭♭ | D♯, vE |
| 11 | 231.58 | 8/7 | vE♯, vF♭ | E |
| 12 | 252.63 | 22/19 | E♯, F♭ | F |
| 13 | 273.68 | 7/6, 34/29 | ^E♯, ^F♭ | ^F, G♭ |
| 14 | 294.74 | 19/16 | vE𝄪, vF | ^^F, ^G♭ |
| 15 | 315.79 | 6/5 | F | ^3F, ^^G♭ |
| 16 | 336.84 | 17/14, 28/23 | ^F, ^G♭♭♭ | ^4F, ^3G♭ |
| 17 | 357.89 | 16/13 | vF♯, vG♭♭ | ^5F, ^4G♭ |
| 18 | 378.95 | 5/4 | F♯, G♭♭ | v4F♯, v5G |
| 19 | 400.00 | 24/19, 29/23 | ^F♯, ^G♭♭ | v3F♯, v4G |
| 20 | 421.05 | 14/11, 9/7 | vF𝄪, vG♭ | vvF♯, v3G |
| 21 | 442.11 | 22/17, 31/24 | F𝄪, G♭ | vF♯, vvG |
| 22 | 463.16 | 17/13, 21/16, 38/29 | ^F𝄪, ^G♭ | F♯, vG |
| 23 | 484.21 | 33/25 | vF♯𝄪, vG | G |
| 24 | 505.26 | 4/3 | G | ^G, A♭ |
| 25 | 526.32 | 19/14, 42/31, 23/17 | ^G, ^A♭♭♭ | ^^G, ^A♭ |
| 26 | 547.37 | 11/8, 26/19 | vG♯, vA♭♭ | ^3G, ^^A♭ |
| 27 | 568.42 | 25/18, 32/23 | G♯, A♭♭ | ^4G, ^3A♭ |
| 28 | 589.47 | 31/22 | ^G♯, ^A♭♭ | ^5G, ^4A♭ |
| 29 | 610.53 | 44/31 | vG𝄪, vA♭ | v4G♯, v5A |
| 30 | 631.58 | 23/16 | G𝄪, A♭ | v3G♯, v4A |
| 31 | 652.63 | 16/11, 19/13 | ^G𝄪, ^A♭ | vvG♯, v3A |
| 32 | 673.68 | 28/19, 31/21, 34/23 | vG♯𝄪, vA | vG♯, vvA |
| 33 | 694.74 | 3/2 | A | G♯, vA |
| 34 | 715.79 | 50/33 | ^A, ^B♭♭♭ | A |
| 35 | 736.84 | 26/17, 32/21, 29/19 | vA♯, vB♭♭ | ^A, B♭ |
| 36 | 757.89 | 17/11, 31/20 | A♯, B♭♭ | ^^A, ^B♭ |
| 37 | 778.95 | 11/7, 14/9 | ^A♯, ^B♭♭ | ^3A, ^^B♭ |
| 38 | 800.00 | 19/12 | vA𝄪, vB♭ | ^4A, ^3B♭ |
| 39 | 821.05 | 8/5 | A𝄪, B♭ | ^5A, ^4B♭ |
| 40 | 842.11 | 13/8 | ^A𝄪, ^B♭ | v4A♯, v5B |
| 41 | 863.16 | 23/14, 28/17, 33/20 | vA♯𝄪, vB | v3A♯, v4B |
| 42 | 884.21 | 5/3 | B | vvA♯, v3B |
| 43 | 905.26 | 32/19 | ^B, ^C♭♭ | vA♯, vvB |
| 44 | 926.32 | 12/7, 29/17 | vB♯, vC♭ | A♯, vB |
| 45 | 947.37 | 19/11 | B♯, C♭ | B |
| 46 | 968.42 | 7/4 | ^B♯, ^C♭ | C |
| 47 | 989.47 | 23/13 | vB𝄪, vC | ^C, D♭ |
| 48 | 1010.53 | 34/19, 52/29, 9/5, 16/9 |
C | ^^C, ^D♭ |
| 49 | 1031.58 | 20/11, 29/16 | ^C, ^D♭♭♭ | ^3C, ^^D♭ |
| 50 | 1052.63 | 11/6 | vC♯, vD♭♭ | ^4C, ^3D♭ |
| 51 | 1073.68 | 13/7, 15/8 | C♯, D♭♭ | ^5C, ^4D♭ |
| 52 | 1094.74 | 32/17 | ^C♯, ^D♭♭ | v4C♯, v5D |
| 53 | 1115.79 | 19/10, 21/11 | vC𝄪, vD♭ | v3C♯, v4D |
| 54 | 1136.84 | 56/29 | C𝄪, D♭ | vvC♯, v3D |
| 55 | 1157.89 | ^C𝄪, ^D♭ | vC♯, vvD | |
| 56 | 1178.95 | vC♯𝄪, vD | C♯, vD | |
| 57 | 1200.00 | 2/1 | D | D |
* As a 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23.29.31-subgroup temperament, in italics if inconsistent
Notation
Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation
57edo can be notated using Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation:
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | | | | | | | | |
| Flat symbol | | | | | | | |
Here, a sharp raises by three steps, and a flat lowers by three steps, so arrows can be used to fill in the gap. If the arrows are taken to have their own layer of enharmonic spellings, some notes may be best spelled with double arrows.
Kite's ups and downs notation
Spoken as up, downsharp, sharp, upsharp, etc. Note that downsharp can be respelled as dup (double-up), and upflat as dud.
Sagittal notation
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as edos 50, 64, and 71b, and is a superset of the notation for 19edo.
Evo flavor

Revo flavor

In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's primary comma (the comma it exactly represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it approximately represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo.
Scales
- 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 - 3mos of type 18L 21s (augene)
Instruments
Since 57edo contains 19edo as a non-trivial subset, it would be possible to use three 19edo instruments tuned 1\57 apart from each other to play the full gamut of 57edo.
A Lumatone mapping for 57edo is available.
Music
- 57edo improv (2025)
- Prelude in 57edo (2025) (switches Lumatone mapping between sections)
- Part 1 (short clip)
- Part 2 (short clip)
- Whole composition (but no view of Lumatone)
- 57edo groove (2025)