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== Query on mention of 36/35 -- is 36/25 meant? ==

There are references to 36/35 and 10/7 differing by 126/125, the starling comma. Could this mean 36/25, or (6/5)^2? [[User:Mschulter1325|Mschulter1325]] 07:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Move to "dyadically consonant chord" ==

To me, "dyadic chord" most intuitively means "chord that is a dyad".

== On anomalous saturated suspensions ==

I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.

: <s>I don't share that feeling but maybe that's becuz English isn't my first language.</s> I use ''saturated suspension'', omitting ''anomalous'' cuz I don't think it conveys anything. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC) (Updated [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 9 May 2026 (UTC))

: <small>P.S. plz remember to sign your comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>.</small>

== Chord classification ==

Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9:10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively. However, classifying these chords as otonal or utonal is misleading, so there should be a convention; perhaps ambitonal, or another term entirely.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I can~~'t keep~~ a ~~straight face whilst looking at~~ this ~~section,~~ I~~'m too childish I may admit~~, ~~but~~ it's ~~kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose~~ it ~~to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related~~.

: These are actually plurichords that change their o/u-tonality on different interpretations. I would suggest marking them as both otonal/utonal, which is a meaningful distinction to make from ambitonal. Perhaps it's also good to explicitly mark their plurichord nature and the associated temperaments, if we can find a way to do so. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

== Det chord vs innate comma chord ==

For cataloguing chords of specific temperaments, this distinction is pointless. I have no idea why it was made in these tables in the first place.

The definition of innate comma chords seems problematic, as it's not clear how it's more specific than ordinary high-odd-limit chords.

—[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

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 == Query on mention of 36/35 -- is 36/25 meant? ==
 There are references to 36/35 and 10/7 differing by 126/125, the starling comma. Could this mean 36/25, or (6/5)^2? [[User:Mschulter1325|Mschulter1325]] 07:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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 == Move to "dyadically consonant chord" ==
 To me, "dyadic chord" most intuitively means "chord that is a dyad".
 == On anomalous saturated suspensions ==
+I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.
+: <s>I don't share that feeling but maybe that's becuz English isn't my first language.</s> I use ''saturated suspension'', omitting ''anomalous'' cuz I don't think it conveys anything. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC) (Updated [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 9 May 2026 (UTC))
+: <small>P.S. plz remember to sign your comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>.</small>
+== Chord classification ==
+Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9:10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively. However, classifying these chords as otonal or utonal is misleading, so there should be a convention; perhaps ambitonal, or another term entirely.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
-I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.
+: These are actually plurichords that change their o/u-tonality on different interpretations. I would suggest marking them as both otonal/utonal, which is a meaningful distinction to make from ambitonal. Perhaps it's also good to explicitly mark their plurichord nature and the associated temperaments, if we can find a way to do so. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
+== Det chord vs innate comma chord ==
+For cataloguing chords of specific temperaments, this distinction is pointless. I have no idea why it was made in these tables in the first place.
+The definition of innate comma chords seems problematic, as it's not clear how it's more specific than ordinary high-odd-limit chords.
+—[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:51, 9 May 2026 (UTC)