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m Fiventeen: the CTE tuning being flat of 46edo is honestly insane/shows it's not the right thing to use here; i would much prefer to only have CE gives a much more reasonable result (between 17 EDO and 80 EDO) but in case anyone is interested in the CTE tuning i wil leave it here
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== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
=== Fiventeen ===
=== Fiventeen ===
[[17edo]] makes a good tuning (especially for its size) for the 2.3.17/5-subgroup {136/135} rank 2 temperament which implies a [[supersoft]] [[pentic]] pentad of 30:34:40:45:51:60 (because as aforementioned [[17/15]] is equated with [[9/8]]) although [[80edo]] might be preferred for a more accurate [[51/40]] to optimize plausibility slightly more, and it and [[46edo]] might be preferred for more accurate fifths. The same is true of the related rank 3 temperament diatic, described below.
[[17edo]] makes a good tuning (especially for its size) for the 2.3.17/5-subgroup {136/135} rank 2 temperament which implies a [[supersoft]] [[pentic]] pentad of 30:34:40:45:51:60 (because as aforementioned [[17/15]] is equated with [[9/8]]), corresponding approximately to a just [[20/17]] tuning, although [[80edo]] might be preferred for an approximately just [[51/40]] to optimize plausibility slightly more, and 80 + 17 = [[97edo]] and 97 + 17 = [[114edo]] do even better in striking a balance between 80edo's more stable tuning and that having 20/17 more accurate (as in 17edo) is useful because of the more convincing suggestion of the two 15:17:20 chords present in the fiventeen pentad. The same is true of the related rank 3 temperament diatic, described below, for which the [[optimal ET sequence]] is much more characteristic of optimized tunings, as it correctly finds [[34edo]], then [[80edo]], then 34 + 80 = [[114edo]] and amazingly even 114 + 80 = [[194edo|194bc-edo]], though because of its focus on primes 5 and 17 it misses 97edo as a tuning, and slightly less optimized though still interesting [[63edo]] and 63 + 80 = [[143edo]] tunings are found in the optimal ET sequence for fiventeen.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.17/5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.17/5
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: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[Tp tuning|subgroup CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 704.1088
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* subgroup CE: 2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 705.440 (recommended)
* [[Tp tuning|subgroup CTE]]: ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 704.1088 (flat of 46edo)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 12, 17, 46, 63, 143 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 12, 17, 46, 63, 143 }}