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11edo is the largest edo that patently alternates with an undivided 9/8 in a [[Well tempered nonet|wtn]]. | 11edo is the largest edo that patently alternates with an undivided 9/8 in a [[Well tempered nonet|wtn]]. | ||
== | == Intervals and notation == | ||
11edo can be notated using ups and downs. Conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. can be used in two ways. The first preserves the ''melodic'' meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5. | 11edo can be notated using ups and downs. Conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. can be used in two ways. The first preserves the ''melodic'' meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5. | ||
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The 11edo solfege in the table is derived from [[22edo Solfege|22edo solfege]]. | The 11edo solfege in the table is derived from [[22edo Solfege|22edo solfege]]. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right- | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-4" | ||
! | ! # | ||
! | ! [[Cent]]s | ||
! Solfege | ! Solfege | ||
! Approximate Ratios* | ! Approximate Ratios* | ||
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! colspan="2" | [[Ups and Downs Notation|Up/down notation]] <br> with major wider <br> than minor | ! colspan="2" | [[Ups and Downs Notation|Up/down notation]] <br> with major wider <br> than minor | ||
! colspan="2" | Up/down notation <br> with major narrower <br> than minor | ! colspan="2" | Up/down notation <br> with major narrower <br> than minor | ||
! [[Smitonic]] | ! [[Smitonic]]<br>(3rd-gen)<br>notation | ||
(3rd-gen) | ! [[Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil|TDW]] <br> [[Machinoid|Machine]] <br> notation | ||
notation | |||
![[Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil|TDW]] <br> [[Machinoid|Machine]] <br> notation | |||
! Pseudo-Diatonic Category | ! Pseudo-Diatonic Category | ||
|- | |- | ||
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genchain of seconds: ... - m3 - m4 - m5 - P6 - P1 - P2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - A6 - A1... | genchain of seconds: ... - m3 - m4 - m5 - P6 - P1 - P2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - A6 - A1... | ||
== Commas == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
=== Commas === | |||
11edo tempers out the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes val {{val| 11 17 26 31 38 41 }}.) | 11edo tempers out the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes val {{val| 11 17 26 31 38 41 }}.) | ||
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| 92.18 | | 92.18 | ||
| Layobi | | Layobi | ||
| Major | | Major chroma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
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| 31.57 | | 31.57 | ||
| Lala-tribiyo | | Lala-tribiyo | ||
| [[Ampersand]]'s | | [[Ampersand]]'s comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
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| 7.71 | | 7.71 | ||
| Ruyoyo | | Ruyoyo | ||
| | | Marvel comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
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<references/> | <references/> | ||
== JI | == JI approximation == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Harmonic | ||
! | ! 8 | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ! 9 | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ! 11 | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ! 14 | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ! 16 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! JI interval from 1/1 | ||
| 1/1 = 0 cents | |||
| | |||
| 9/8 = 204 | |||
| | |||
| 11/8 = 551 | |||
| | |||
| 7/4 = 969 | |||
| | |||
| 2/1 = 1200 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Nearest 11edo interval | ||
| 0\11 = 0¢ | |||
| | |||
| 2\11 = 218¢ | |||
| | |||
| 5\11 = 545 | |||
| | |||
| 9\11 = 982 | |||
| | |||
| 11\11 = 1200 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Difference | ||
| 0 | |||
| | |||
| +14¢ | |||
| | |||
| -6¢ | |||
| | |||
| +13¢ | |||
| | |||
| 0¢ | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! JI interval between | ||
| | |||
| 9:8 = 204¢ | |||
| | |||
| 11:9 = 347 | |||
| | |||
| 14:11 = 418 | |||
| | |||
| 8:7 = 231 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Nearest 11edo interval | ||
| | |||
| 2\11 = 218¢ | |||
| | |||
| 3\11 = 327 | |||
| | |||
| 4\11 = 436 | |||
| | |||
| 2\11 = 218 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Difference | ||
| | |||
| +14¢ | |||
| | |||
| -20¢ | |||
| | |||
| +18¢ | |||
| | |||
| -13¢ | |||
| | |||
|} | |} | ||
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== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
Although 11edo has one fewer interval in the octave than 12edo, in terms of [[ | Although 11edo has one fewer interval in the octave than 12edo, in terms of [[MOS scale|moment-of-symmetry scales]], it offers a great deal more variety. This is because 11 is a prime number, while 12 is composite. Cycles of 2\11 (two degrees of 11edo), 3\11, 4\11 and 5\11 produce scales which do not repeat at the octave until all 11 intervals have been included. | ||
2\11 generates 2 2 2 2 3, a [[1L 4s]] scale named | 2\11 generates 2 2 2 2 3, a [[1L 4s]] scale named machine[5]; and 2 2 2 2 2 1, a [[5L 1s]] scale named [[machine]][6]. | ||
[[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.32.40 PM.png|none|thumb|1003x1003px]] | [[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.32.40 PM.png|none|thumb|1003x1003px]] | ||
3\11 generates 3 3 3 2; and 1 2 1 2 1 2 2, a [[4L 3s]] scale named [[ | 3\11 generates 3 3 3 2; and 1 2 1 2 1 2 2, a [[4L 3s]] scale named [[orgone]][7]. | ||
[[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.33.13 PM.png|none|thumb|987x987px]] | [[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.33.13 PM.png|none|thumb|987x987px]] | ||
4\11 generates 4 4 3; 1 3 1 3 3, a [[3L 2s]] scale; and 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2, a [[3L 5s]] scale. | 4\11 generates 4 4 3; 1 3 1 3 3, a [[3L 2s]] scale; and 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2, a [[3L 5s]] scale. | ||
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5\11 generates [[joan]] scales 5 5 1; 1 4 1 4 1, a [[2L 3s]] scale; 1 1 3 1 1 3 1, a [[2L 5s]] scale; and 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1, a [[2L 7s]] scale. | 5\11 generates [[joan]] scales 5 5 1; 1 4 1 4 1, a [[2L 3s]] scale; 1 1 3 1 1 3 1, a [[2L 5s]] scale; and 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1, a [[2L 7s]] scale. | ||
[[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.33.44 PM.png|none|thumb|995x995px]] | [[File:Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 11.33.44 PM.png|none|thumb|995x995px]] | ||
See [[ | See [[11edo Modes]] | ||
=== Pathological | === Pathological modes === | ||
2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 [[2L 7s]] MOS | 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 [[2L 7s]] MOS | ||
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== Videos == | == Videos == | ||
The Stuffed Ones: | * The Stuffed Ones: ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU0VvGRelUQ&feature=related Goopy]'', ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9wDl_oxHE&feature=related Ziggy]'', ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53IiHdXfJwI&feature=related Ellie]'', ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZqpRcB-lk&feature=related Towelbear]'' by [http://www.youtube.com/user/zipzappoozoo zipzappoozoo] | ||
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhPjsCoMy-Q 11-equal Improvisation]'', [[Mike Battaglia FAQ|Mike Battaglia]] - youtube | |||
== 11edo Zine == | == 11edo Zine == | ||