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'''5 equal divisions of the octave''' (or ''' | '''5 equal divisions of the octave''' (or '''5edo''') is the [[tuning system]] derived by dividing the [[octave]] into 5 equal steps of 240 [[cent]]s each, or the fifth root of two. 5edo is the third [[prime edo]], after [[2edo|2edo]] and [[3edo|3edo]]. Most importantly, 5edo is the smallest [[edo]] containing xenharmonic intervals — 1edo, 2edo, 3edo, and 4edo are all subsets of [[12edo|12edo]]. | ||
== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
{ | {{primes in equal|5}} | ||
| 5 | |||
If | If 5edo is regarded as a temperament, which is to say as 5-TET, then the most salient fact is that 16/15 is tempered out. This means in 5-TET the major third and the fourth, and the minor sixth and the fifth, are not distinguished; this is 5-limit [[Trienstonic clan|father temperament]]. | ||
Also tempered out is 27/25, if we temper this out in preference to 16/15 we obtain [[Bug family|bug temperament]], which equates 10/9 with 6/5: it is a little more perverse even than father. Because these intervals are so large, this sort of analysis is less significant with 5 than it becomes with larger and more accurate divisions, but it still plays a role. For example, I-IV-V-I is the same as I-III-V-I and involves triads with common intervals because of fourth-thirds equivalence. | Also tempered out is 27/25, if we temper this out in preference to 16/15 we obtain [[Bug family|bug temperament]], which equates 10/9 with 6/5: it is a little more perverse even than father. Because these intervals are so large, this sort of analysis is less significant with 5 than it becomes with larger and more accurate divisions, but it still plays a role. For example, I-IV-V-I is the same as I-III-V-I and involves triads with common intervals because of fourth-thirds equivalence. | ||
Despite its lack of accuracy, | Despite its lack of accuracy, 5edo is the second [[The Riemann Zeta Function and Tuning #Zeta edo lists|zeta integral edo]], after 2edo. It also is the smallest equal division representing the [[9-odd-limit|9-limit]] [[consistent|consistently]], giving a distinct value modulo five to 2, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Hence in a way similar to how [[4edo|4edo]] can be used, and which is discussed in that article, it can be used to represent [[7-limit]] intervals in terms of their position in a pentad, by giving a triple of integers representing a pentad in the [[The_Seven_Limit_Symmetrical_Lattices|lattice]] of tetrads/pentads together with the number of scale steps in 5edo. However, while 2edo represents the [[3-limit]] consistently, 3edo the [[5-limit]], 4edo the [[7-limit]] and 5edo the 9-limit, to represent the [[11-limit]] consistently with a [[patent val]] requires going all the way to [[22edo|22edo]]. Nevertheless, because the comma tempered out for this edo's circle of fifths is [[256/243]], and since this interval is smaller than half a step, 5edo is the second edo to demonstrate 3-to-2 [[telicity]]. | ||
In addition, considering | In addition, considering 5edo as a no-5s temperament improves its standing significantly. It is especially prominent as a simple 2.3.7 temperament with high relative accuracy (the next edo doing it better being [[17edo|17]]), and is the optimal patent val for the no-5s [[Trienstonic clan|trienstonic]] (or [[Color notation/Temperament Names|Zo]]) temperament. | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
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* naturals on a five-line staff, with enharmonics (used interchangably) E=F and B=C | * naturals on a five-line staff, with enharmonics (used interchangably) E=F and B=C | ||
* a four-line hybrid treble/bass staff. | * a four-line hybrid treble/bass staff. | ||
[[Kite Giedraitis]] has proposed a pentatonic notation that retains the appearance of heptatonic names, to avoid the confusion caused by one's lifelong association of "fourth" with 4/3, not 3/2. The interval names are unisoid, subthird, fourthoid, fifthoid, subseventh and octoid, or 1d s3 4d 5d s7 8d. When notating larger | [[Kite Giedraitis]] has proposed a pentatonic notation that retains the appearance of heptatonic names, to avoid the confusion caused by one's lifelong association of "fourth" with 4/3, not 3/2. The interval names are unisoid, subthird, fourthoid, fifthoid, subseventh and octoid, or 1d s3 4d 5d s7 8d. When notating larger edos such as 8 or 13, there are major or minor sub3rds and sub7ths. Note that 15/8 is an octoid. | ||
== Observations == | == Observations == | ||
=== Related scales === | === Related scales === | ||
* By its cardinality, | * By its cardinality, 5edo is related to other [[pentatonic]] scales, and it is especially close in sound to many Indonesian [[slendro]]s. | ||
* Due to the interest around the "fifth" interval size, there are many [[nonoctave]] "stretch sisters" to | * Due to the interest around the "fifth" interval size, there are many [[nonoctave]] "stretch sisters" to 5edo: square root of 4/3, cube root of 3/2, 8th root of 3, etc. | ||
* For the same reason there are many "circle sisters": | * For the same reason there are many "circle sisters": | ||
** Make a chain of five "bigger fifths" (50/33), which makes three octaves 3.227¢ flat. (50/33)^5 = 7.985099. | ** Make a chain of five "bigger fifths" (50/33), which makes three octaves 3.227¢ flat. (50/33)^5 = 7.985099. | ||
=== Cycles, Divisions === | === Cycles, Divisions === | ||
5 is a prime number so | 5 is a prime number so 5edo contains no sub-edos. Only simple cycles: | ||
* Cycle of seconds: 0-1-2-3-4-0 | * Cycle of seconds: 0-1-2-3-4-0 | ||
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=== Harmony === | === Harmony === | ||
5edo does not have any strong consonance nor dissonance. The 240 cent interval can serve as either a major second or minor third, and the 960 cent interval as either a major sixth or minor seventh. The fourth is about 18 cents flat of a just fourth, making it rather "dirty" but recognizable. The fifth is likewise about 18 cents sharp of a just fifth, dissonant but still easily recognizable. | |||
In contrast to other | In contrast to other edos, all of the notes can be used at once in order to get a functioning scale. (As in Blackwood in [[10edo|10edo]]). | ||
Important chords: | Important chords: | ||
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=== Melody === | === Melody === | ||
Smallest | Smallest edo that can be used for melodies in a "standard" way. The relatively large step of 240 cents can be used as major second for the melody construction. The scale has whole-tone as well as pentatonic character. | ||
=== Chord or scale? === | === Chord or scale? === | ||
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== Commas == | == Commas == | ||
5edo [[tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. This assumes the [[val]] {{val| 5 8 12 14 17 19 }}. | |||
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-4 center-5" | {| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-4 center-5" | ||
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== Ear Training == | == Ear Training == | ||
5edo ear-training exercises by Alex Ness available here: | |||
* https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUT3VEZUVmeVZUcmc&usp=drive_web | * https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUT3VEZUVmeVZUcmc&usp=drive_web | ||
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* [[Brian McLaren]]: various and sundry | * [[Brian McLaren]]: various and sundry | ||
* [[Paul Rubenstein]]: various, with electric guitars in 10- and | * [[Paul Rubenstein]]: various, with electric guitars in 10- and 15edo | ||
There is also much 5edo-like world music, just search for "gyil" or "amadinda" or "slendro". | There is also much 5edo-like world music, just search for "gyil" or "amadinda" or "slendro". | ||
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[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
[[Category:Macrotonal]] | [[Category:Macrotonal]] | ||
[[Category:Prime | [[Category:Prime edo]] | ||
[[Category:Zeta]] | [[Category:Zeta]] | ||