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The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''würschmidt family''' is [[393216/390625]], known as Würschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[monzo]] is {{monzo| 17 1 -8 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 8 1 17 }} for the wedgie. This tells us the [[generator]] is a classic major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)<sup>8</sup> × 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include | The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the '''würschmidt family''' (würschmidt is sometimes spelled '''wuerschmidt''') is [[393216/390625]], known as Würschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[monzo]] is {{monzo| 17 1 -8 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 8 1 17 }} for the wedgie. This tells us the [[generator]] is a classic major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)<sup>8</sup> × 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Würschmidt comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[minimax tuning]]. Würschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[MOS]] all possibilities. | ||
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Würschmidt adds {{monzo| 12 3 -6 -1 }}, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = {{monzo| -16 1 5 1 }}, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = {{monzo| -1 -7 4 1 }} and hemiwürschmidt adds 6144/6125 = {{monzo| 11 1 -3 -2 }}. | |||
== Würschmidt == | == Würschmidt == | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5 | Subgroup: 2.3.5 | ||
[[Comma]]: 393216/390625 | [[Comma list]]: 393216/390625 | ||
[[Mapping]]: [{{Val|1 7 3}}, {{Val|0 -8 -1}}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{Val|1 7 3}}, {{Val|0 -8 -1}}] | ||
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* [http://chrisvaisvil.com/ancient-stardust-wurschmidt13/ Ancient Stardust], [http://micro.soonlabel.com/jake_freivald/tunings_by_jake_freivald/20130811_wurschmidt%5b13%5d.mp3 play] by Chris Vaisvil; Würschmidt[13] in 5-limit minimax tuning | * [http://chrisvaisvil.com/ancient-stardust-wurschmidt13/ Ancient Stardust], [http://micro.soonlabel.com/jake_freivald/tunings_by_jake_freivald/20130811_wurschmidt%5b13%5d.mp3 play] by Chris Vaisvil; Würschmidt[13] in 5-odd-limit minimax tuning | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Freivald/Wurschmidt%5b16%5d-out.mp3 Extrospection] by [https://soundcloud.com/jdfreivald/extrospection Jake Freivald]; Würschmidt[16] tuned in 31edo. | |||
== Septimal | == Septimal würschmidt == | ||
Würschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[31edo | Würschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[31edo]] or [[127edo]] can be used as tunings. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version {{Multival| 8 1 18 20 … }} which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. 127edo is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit würschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank-3 temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 15 }}, {{Val| 0 -8 -1 -18 }}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 15 }}, {{Val| 0 -8 -1 -18 }}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 1 18 -17 6 39 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.383 | [[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.383 | ||
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Badness: 0.024413 | Badness: 0.024413 | ||
=== 13-limit === | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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Badness: 0.023593 | Badness: 0.023593 | ||
=== Worseschmidt === | ==== Worseschmidt ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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== Worschmidt == | == Worschmidt == | ||
Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[31edo | Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[31edo]], [[34edo]], or [[127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is {{val| 127 201 295 '''356''' }} (127d) and not {{val| 127 201 295 '''357''' }} as with würschmidt. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 -6 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -1 13 }}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 -6 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -1 13 }}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.392 | [[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.392 | ||
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== Whirrschmidt == | == Whirrschmidt == | ||
[[99edo | [[99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with 7 mapped to the 52nd generator step. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 38 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -1 -52 }}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 7 3 38 }}, {{val| 0 -8 -1 -52 }}] | ||
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 1 52 -17 60 118 }} | |||
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.881 | [[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 387.881 | ||
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== Hemiwürschmidt == | == Hemiwürschmidt == | ||
'''Hemiwürschmidt''' (sometimes spelled ''' | {{See also| Hemimean clan }} | ||
'''Hemiwürschmidt''' (sometimes spelled '''hemiwuerschmidt'''), which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out [[2401/2400]], [[3136/3125]], and [[6144/6125]]. [[68edo]], [[99edo]] and [[130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwürschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, {{multival| 16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28 … }}. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Relationships to other temperaments == | == Relationships to other temperaments == | ||
2-Würschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as | 2-Würschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as würschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament. | ||
[[Category:Regular temperament theory]] | [[Category:Regular temperament theory]] |