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''' | '''104 EDO''' divides the [[octave]] into 104 parts of size 11.5385 [[cent]]s each. | ||
==Theory == | == Theory == | ||
104edo with the flat third is especially notable as an excellent tuning for magic temperament, providing the [[optimal patent val]] for 11-limit magic and the 13-limit magic extension [[ | {{Primes in edo|104|prec=2}} | ||
104 EDO has two different equally viable 5-limit [[val]]s, and both are useful. The flat major third val, {{val|104 165 241}} ([[patent val]]), tempers out [[3125/3072]], and supports [[magic]] temperament. The sharp major third val, {{val|104 165 242}} (104c val), tempers out [[2048/2025]] and supports [[diaschismic]] temperament. | |||
104edo with the flat third is especially notable as an excellent tuning for magic temperament, providing the [[optimal patent val]] for 11-limit magic and the 13-limit magic extension [[necromancy]]. In the 5-limit it tempers out the magic comma, 3125/3072; in the 7-limit, it tempers out [[225/224]], [[245/243]] and [[875/864]]; and in the 11-limit, [[100/99]], [[896/891]], [[385/384]] and [[540/539]]. It provides an excellent tuning also for the rank three temperaments pairing 100/99 with 225/224 ([[apollo]] temperament), 245/243 or 875/864, or the rank four temperament tempering out 100/99, for which it gives the optimal patent val. | |||
104 with the sharp third is excellent for 11, 13, or 17 limit diaschismic. It tempers out 2048/2025 in the 5-limit, [[126/125]] and [[5120/5103]] in the 7-limit, [[176/175]] and 896/891 in the 11-limit, [[196/195]] and [[364/363]] in the 13-limit and [[136/135]] and [[256/255]] in the 17-limit. | 104 with the sharp third is excellent for 11, 13, or 17 limit diaschismic. It tempers out 2048/2025 in the 5-limit, [[126/125]] and [[5120/5103]] in the 7-limit, [[176/175]] and 896/891 in the 11-limit, [[196/195]] and [[364/363]] in the 13-limit and [[136/135]] and [[256/255]] in the 17-limit. | ||
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104 is also notable as a no-fives system; on 2.3.7.11.13, it tempers out 352/351, 364/363, 896/891, 2197/2187, 16807/16731, 20449/20412, 21632/21609, 26411/26364 and 10648/10647. It is the optimal patent val for the 17&87 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament tempering out 352/351, 364/363 and 2197/2187, which has a 13/9 generator, three of which give a 3. | 104 is also notable as a no-fives system; on 2.3.7.11.13, it tempers out 352/351, 364/363, 896/891, 2197/2187, 16807/16731, 20449/20412, 21632/21609, 26411/26364 and 10648/10647. It is the optimal patent val for the 17&87 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament tempering out 352/351, 364/363 and 2197/2187, which has a 13/9 generator, three of which give a 3. | ||
== Rank two temperaments== | == Rank two temperaments == | ||
===In patent val === | |||
=== In patent val === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
!Periods<br>per octave | ! Periods <br> per octave | ||
!Generator | ! Generator | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
!Associated ratio | ! Associated ratio | ||
!Temperament | ! Temperament | ||
|- | |- | ||
| rowspan="2" |1 | | rowspan="2" | 1 | ||
|33\104 | | 33\104 | ||
|380.769 | | 380.769 | ||
| 5/4 | | 5/4 | ||
|[[Magic]] / necromancy / divination | | [[Magic]] / necromancy / divination | ||
|- | |- | ||
|51\104 | | 51\104 | ||
|588.462 | | 588.462 | ||
|7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
|[[Untriton]] | | [[Untriton]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|4 | | 4 | ||
|9\104 | | 9\104 | ||
|103.846 | | 103.846 | ||
|18/17 | | 18/17 | ||
|[[Undim]] | | [[Undim]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
===In 104c val=== | === In 104c val === | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
!Periods<br>per octave | ! Periods <br> per octave | ||
!Generator<br>(reduced) | ! Generator <br> (reduced) | ||
!Cents<br>(reduced) | ! Cents <br> (reduced) | ||
!Associated ratio<br>(reduced) | ! Associated ratio <br> (reduced) | ||
!Temperament | ! Temperament | ||
|- | |- | ||
| rowspan="3" |1 | | rowspan="3" | 1 | ||
|21\104 | | 21\104 | ||
| 242.308 | | 242.308 | ||
|147/128 | | 147/128 | ||
|[[Septiquarter]] | | [[Septiquarter]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|27\104 | | 27\104 | ||
|311.538 | | 311.538 | ||
|6/5 | | 6/5 | ||
|[[Oolong]] | | [[Oolong]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|47\104 | | 47\104 | ||
| 542.308 | | 542.308 | ||
| 15/11 | | 15/11 | ||
|[[Casablanca]] / marrakesh | | [[Casablanca]] / marrakesh | ||
|- | |- | ||
|2 | | 2 | ||
|43\104 | | 43\104 | ||
|496.154 | | 496.154 | ||
|4/3 | | 4/3 | ||
|[[Diaschismic]] | | [[Diaschismic]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | | 8 | ||
|50\104<br>(2\104) | | 50\104 <br> (2\104) | ||
|576.923<br>(23.077) | | 576.923 <br> (23.077) | ||
|121/84<br>(78/77) | | 121/84 <br> (78/77) | ||
|[[Octowerck]] (7- or 11-limit) | | [[Octowerck]] (7- or 11-limit) | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Intervals== | ==Intervals== | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" |# | ! rowspan="2" | # | ||
! rowspan="2" |Cents | ! rowspan="2" | Cents | ||
! colspan="3" | Approximate Ratios | ! colspan="3" | Approximate Ratios | ||
|- | |- | ||
!of 2.3.7.11.13.17.19.25<br>Subgroup | ! of 2.3.7.11.13.17.19.25 <br> Subgroup | ||
!Additional Ratios of 5<br>Tending Sharp (104c Val) | ! Additional Ratios of 5 <br> Tending Sharp (104c Val) | ||
!Additional Ratios of 5<br>Tending Flat (Patent Val) | ! Additional Ratios of 5 <br> Tending Flat (Patent Val) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
|0.000 | | 0.000 | ||
|[[1/1]] | | [[1/1]] | ||
|[[126/125]] | | [[126/125]] | ||
|[[225/224]], [[100/99]] | | [[225/224]], [[100/99]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|1 | | 1 | ||
|11.538 | | 11.538 | ||
| [[225/224]], [[100/99]] | | [[225/224]], [[100/99]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|2 | | 2 | ||
|23.077 | | 23.077 | ||
|[[64/63]] | | [[64/63]] | ||
|[[81/80]], [[225/224]] | | [[81/80]], [[225/224]] | ||
|[[50/49]] | | [[50/49]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|3 | | 3 | ||
|34.615 | | 34.615 | ||
|[[49/48]], [[50/49]] | | [[49/48]], [[50/49]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[81/80]], [[126/125]] | | [[81/80]], [[126/125]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|4 | | 4 | ||
|46.154 | | 46.154 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[36/35]], [[50/49]] | | [[36/35]], [[50/49]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5 | | 5 | ||
|57.692 | | 57.692 | ||
|[[28/27]], [[33/32]] | | [[28/27]], [[33/32]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[25/24]], [[36/35]] | | [[25/24]], [[36/35]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|6 | | 6 | ||
|69.231 | | 69.231 | ||
|[[25/24]] | | [[25/24]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|7 | | 7 | ||
|80.769 | | 80.769 | ||
|[[22/21]] | | [[22/21]] | ||
|[[25/24]], [[21/20]] | | [[25/24]], [[21/20]] | ||
|[[20/19]] | | [[20/19]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | | 8 | ||
|92.308 | | 92.308 | ||
|[[19/18]] | | [[19/18]] | ||
| | | | ||
[[20/19]] | [[20/19]] | ||
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[[21/20]] | [[21/20]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|9 | | 9 | ||
|103.846 | | 103.846 | ||
|[[17/16]], [[18/17]] | | [[17/16]], [[18/17]] | ||
| | | | ||
[[16/15]] | [[16/15]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|10 | | 10 | ||
|115.385 | | 115.385 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|[[16/15]], [[15/14]] | | [[16/15]], [[15/14]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11 | | 11 | ||
|126.923 | | 126.923 | ||
|[[14/13]] | | [[14/13]] | ||
|[[15/14]] | | [[15/14]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|12 | | 12 | ||
|138.462 | | 138.462 | ||
|[[13/12]] | | [[13/12]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13 | | 13 | ||
|150.000 | | 150.000 | ||
|[[12/11]] | | [[12/11]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|14 | | 14 | ||
|161.538 | | 161.538 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[11/10]] | | [[11/10]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|15 | | 15 | ||
|173.077 | | 173.077 | ||
|[[21/19]] | | [[21/19]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[10/9]], [[11/10]] | | [[10/9]], [[11/10]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|16 | | 16 | ||
|184.615 | | 184.615 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[10/9]] | | [[10/9]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|17 | | 17 | ||
|196.154 | | 196.154 | ||
|[[28/25]], [[19/17]] | | [[28/25]], [[19/17]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|18 | | 18 | ||
|207.692 | | 207.692 | ||
|9/8 | | 9/8 | ||
|[[17/15]] | | [[17/15]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|19 | | 19 | ||
|219.231 | | 219.231 | ||
|[[25/22]] | | [[25/22]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[17/15]] | | [[17/15]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|20 | | 20 | ||
|230.769 | | 230.769 | ||
|[[8/7]] | | [[8/7]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
|242.308 | | 242.308 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|[[15/13]] | | [[15/13]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|22 | | 22 | ||
|253.846 | | 253.846 | ||
|[[22/19]] | | [[22/19]] | ||
|[[15/13]] | | [[15/13]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|23 | | 23 | ||
|265.385 | | 265.385 | ||
|[[7/6]] | | [[7/6]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|24 | | 24 | ||
|276.923 | | 276.923 | ||
|[[75/64]] | | [[75/64]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[20/17]] | | [[20/17]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25 | | 25 | ||
|288.462 | | 288.462 | ||
|[[32/27]], [[13/11]] | | [[32/27]], [[13/11]] | ||
|[[20/17]] | | [[20/17]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 26 | | 26 | ||
|300.000 | | 300.000 | ||
|[[25/21]], [[19/16]] | | [[25/21]], [[19/16]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|27 | | 27 | ||
|311.538 | | 311.538 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[6/5]] | | [[6/5]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|28 | | 28 | ||
|323.077 | | 323.077 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|[[6/5]] | | [[6/5]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|29 | | 29 | ||
|334.615 | | 334.615 | ||
|[[17/14]] | | [[17/14]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|30 | | 30 | ||
|346.154 | | 346.154 | ||
|[[11/9]], [[39/32]] | | [[11/9]], [[39/32]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|31 | | 31 | ||
|357.692 | | 357.692 | ||
|[[27/22]], [[16/13]] | | [[27/22]], [[16/13]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|32 | | 32 | ||
|369.231 | | 369.231 | ||
|[[26/21]], [[21/17]] | | [[26/21]], [[21/17]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 33 | | 33 | ||
|380.769 | | 380.769 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|[[5/4]] | | [[5/4]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|34 | | 34 | ||
|392.308 | | 392.308 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[5/4]] | | [[5/4]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|35 | | 35 | ||
|403.846 | | 403.846 | ||
|[[63/50]], [[24/19]] | | [[63/50]], [[24/19]] | ||
|[[19/15]] | | [[19/15]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 36 | | 36 | ||
|415.385 | | 415.385 | ||
|[[81/64]], [[14/11]] | | [[81/64]], [[14/11]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
[[19/15]] | [[19/15]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|37 | | 37 | ||
|426.923 | | 426.923 | ||
|[[32/25]] | | [[32/25]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|38 | | 38 | ||
|438.462 | | 438.462 | ||
|[[9/7]] | | [[9/7]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39 | | 39 | ||
|450.000 | | 450.000 | ||
|[[22/17]] | | [[22/17]] | ||
|[[13/10]] | | [[13/10]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|40 | | 40 | ||
|461.538 | | 461.538 | ||
|[[17/13]] | | [[17/13]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[13/10]] | | [[13/10]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|41 | | 41 | ||
|473.077 | | 473.077 | ||
|[[21/16]] | | [[21/16]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|42 | | 42 | ||
|484.615 | | 484.615 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|43 | | 43 | ||
|496.154 | | 496.154 | ||
|[[4/3]] | | [[4/3]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|44 | | 44 | ||
|507.692 | | 507.692 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|45 | | 45 | ||
|519.231 | | 519.231 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[27/20]] | | [[27/20]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|46 | | 46 | ||
|530.769 | | 530.769 | ||
|[[19/14]] | | [[19/14]] | ||
| | | | ||
|[[27/20]], [[15/11]] | | [[27/20]], [[15/11]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|47 | | 47 | ||
|542.308 | | 542.308 | ||
|[[26/19]] | | [[26/19]] | ||
|[[15/11]] | | [[15/11]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|48 | | 48 | ||
|553.846 | | 553.846 | ||
|[[11/8]] | | [[11/8]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|49 | | 49 | ||
|565.385 | | 565.385 | ||
|[[18/13]] | | [[18/13]] | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|50 | | 50 | ||
|576.923 | | 576.923 | ||
| | | | ||
|[[7/5]] | | [[7/5]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|51 | | 51 | ||
|588.462 | | 588.462 | ||
| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|[[45/32]], [[7/5]] | | [[45/32]], [[7/5]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|52 | | 52 | ||
|600.000 | | 600.000 | ||
|[[17/12]], [[24/17]] | | [[17/12]], [[24/17]] | ||
|[[45/32]], [[64/45]] | | [[45/32]], [[64/45]] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|… | | … | ||
|… | | … | ||
|… | | … | ||
|… | | … | ||
|… | | … | ||
|} | |} | ||
Since 104edo has a step of 11.5385 cents, it also allows one to use its MOS scales as circulating temperaments. As 8*[[13edo]], it is the first edo where two smaller edos it allows one to use as circulating temperaments are Fibonacci | |||
Since 104edo has a step of 11.5385 cents, it also allows one to use its MOS scales as circulating temperaments. As 8*[[13edo]], it is the first edo where two smaller edos it allows one to use as circulating temperaments are Fibonacci EDOs. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+Circulating temperaments in 104edo | |+Circulating temperaments in 104edo | ||
!Tones | ! Tones | ||
!Pattern | ! Pattern | ||
!L:s | ! L:s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5 | | 5 | ||
|[[4L 1s]] | | [[4L 1s]] | ||
|21:20 | | 21:20 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|6 | | 6 | ||
|[[2L 4s]] | | [[2L 4s]] | ||
|18:17 | | 18:17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|7 | | 7 | ||
|[[6L 1s]] | | [[6L 1s]] | ||
|15:14 | | 15:14 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | | 8 | ||
|[[8edo]] | | [[8edo]] | ||
|equal | | equal | ||
|- | |- | ||
|9 | | 9 | ||
|[[5L 4s]] | | [[5L 4s]] | ||
|12:11 | | 12:11 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|10 | | 10 | ||
|[[4L 6s]] | | [[4L 6s]] | ||
|11:10 | | 11:10 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11 | | 11 | ||
|[[5L 6s]] | | [[5L 6s]] | ||
|10:9 | | 10:9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|12 | | 12 | ||
|[[8L 4s]] | | [[8L 4s]] | ||
|9:8 | | 9:8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13 | | 13 | ||
|[[13edo]] | | [[13edo]] | ||
|equal | | equal | ||
|- | |- | ||
|14 | | 14 | ||
|[[4L 10s]] | | [[4L 10s]] | ||
|8:7 | | 8:7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|15 | | 15 | ||
|[[14L 1s]] | | [[14L 1s]] | ||
| rowspan="3" |7:6 | | rowspan="3" |7:6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|16 | | 16 | ||
|8L 8s | | 8L 8s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|17 | | 17 | ||
|[[2L 15s]] | | [[2L 15s]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|18 | | 18 | ||
|12L 6s | | 12L 6s | ||
| rowspan="3" |6:5 | | rowspan="3" |6:5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|19 | | 19 | ||
|[[9L 10s]] | | [[9L 10s]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|20 | | 20 | ||
|4L 16s | | 4L 16s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|21 | | 21 | ||
|20L 1s | | 20L 1s | ||
| rowspan="5" |5:4 | | rowspan="5" |5:4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|22 | | 22 | ||
|16L 6s | | 16L 6s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|23 | | 23 | ||
|[[12L 11s]] | | [[12L 11s]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|24 | | 24 | ||
|8L 16s | | 8L 16s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|25 | | 25 | ||
|4L 21s | | 4L 21s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|26 | | 26 | ||
|[[26edo]] | | [[26edo]] | ||
|equal | | equal | ||
|- | |- | ||
|27 | | 27 | ||
|23L 4s | | 23L 4s | ||
| rowspan="8" |4:3 | | rowspan="8" |4:3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|28 | | 28 | ||
|20L 8s | | 20L 8s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|29 | | 29 | ||
|[[17L 12s]] | | [[17L 12s]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|30 | | 30 | ||
|14L 16s | | 14L 16s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|31 | | 31 | ||
|11L 20s | | 11L 20s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|32 | | 32 | ||
|8L 24s | | 8L 24s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|33 | | 33 | ||
|5L 28s | | 5L 28s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|34 | | 34 | ||
|2L 32s | | 2L 32s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|35 | | 35 | ||
|34L 1s | | 34L 1s | ||
| rowspan="17" |3:2 | | rowspan="17" |3:2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|36 | | 36 | ||
|32L 4s | | 32L 4s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|37 | | 37 | ||
|30L 7s | | 30L 7s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|38 | | 38 | ||
|28L 10s | | 28L 10s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39 | | 39 | ||
|26L 13s | | 26L 13s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|40 | | 40 | ||
|24L 16s | | 24L 16s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|41 | | 41 | ||
|22L 19s | | 22L 19s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|42 | | 42 | ||
|20L 22s | | 20L 22s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|43 | | 43 | ||
|18L 25s | | 18L 25s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|44 | | 44 | ||
|16L 28s | | 16L 28s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|45 | | 45 | ||
|14L 31s | | 14L 31s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|46 | | 46 | ||
|12L 34s | | 12L 34s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|47 | | 47 | ||
|10L 37s | | 10L 37s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|48 | | 48 | ||
|8L 40s | | 8L 40s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|49 | | 49 | ||
|6L 43s | | 6L 43s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|50 | | 50 | ||
|4L 46s | | 4L 46s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|51 | | 51 | ||
|2L 46s | | 2L 46s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|52 | | 52 | ||
|[[52edo]] | | [[52edo]] | ||
|equal | | equal | ||
|- | |- | ||
|53 | | 53 | ||
|51L 2s | | 51L 2s | ||
| rowspan="31" |2:1 | | rowspan="31" |2:1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|54 | | 54 | ||
|50L 4s | | 50L 4s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|55 | | 55 | ||
|49L 6s | | 49L 6s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|56 | | 56 | ||
|48L 8s | | 48L 8s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|57 | | 57 | ||
|47L 10s | | 47L 10s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|58 | | 58 | ||
|46L 12s | | 46L 12s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|59 | | 59 | ||
|45L 14s | | 45L 14s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|60 | | 60 | ||
|44L 16s | | 44L 16s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|61 | | 61 | ||
|43L 18s | | 43L 18s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|62 | | 62 | ||
|42L 20s | | 42L 20s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|63 | | 63 | ||
|41L 22s | | 41L 22s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|64 | | 64 | ||
|40L 24s | | 40L 24s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|65 | | 65 | ||
|39L 26s | | 39L 26s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|66 | | 66 | ||
|38L 28s | | 38L 28s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|67 | | 67 | ||
|37L 30s | | 37L 30s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|68 | | 68 | ||
|36L 32s | | 36L 32s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|69 | | 69 | ||
|35L 34s | | 35L 34s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|70 | | 70 | ||
|34L 36s | | 34L 36s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|71 | | 71 | ||
|33L 38s | | 33L 38s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|72 | | 72 | ||
|32L 40s | | 32L 40s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|73 | | 73 | ||
|31L 42s | | 31L 42s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|74 | | 74 | ||
|30L 44s | | 30L 44s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|75 | | 75 | ||
|29L 46s | | 29L 46s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|76 | | 76 | ||
|28L 48s | | 28L 48s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|77 | | 77 | ||
|27L 50s | | 27L 50s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|78 | | 78 | ||
|26L 52s | | 26L 52s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|79 | | 79 | ||
|25L 54s | | 25L 54s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|80 | | 80 | ||
|24L 56s | | 24L 56s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|81 | | 81 | ||
|23L 58s | | 23L 58s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|82 | | 82 | ||
|22L 60s | | 22L 60s | ||
|- | |- | ||
|83 | | 83 | ||
|21L 62s | | 21L 62s | ||
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Revision as of 18:10, 10 June 2021
104 EDO divides the octave into 104 parts of size 11.5385 cents each.
Theory
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104 EDO has two different equally viable 5-limit vals, and both are useful. The flat major third val, ⟨104 165 241] (patent val), tempers out 3125/3072, and supports magic temperament. The sharp major third val, ⟨104 165 242] (104c val), tempers out 2048/2025 and supports diaschismic temperament.
104edo with the flat third is especially notable as an excellent tuning for magic temperament, providing the optimal patent val for 11-limit magic and the 13-limit magic extension necromancy. In the 5-limit it tempers out the magic comma, 3125/3072; in the 7-limit, it tempers out 225/224, 245/243 and 875/864; and in the 11-limit, 100/99, 896/891, 385/384 and 540/539. It provides an excellent tuning also for the rank three temperaments pairing 100/99 with 225/224 (apollo temperament), 245/243 or 875/864, or the rank four temperament tempering out 100/99, for which it gives the optimal patent val.
104 with the sharp third is excellent for 11, 13, or 17 limit diaschismic. It tempers out 2048/2025 in the 5-limit, 126/125 and 5120/5103 in the 7-limit, 176/175 and 896/891 in the 11-limit, 196/195 and 364/363 in the 13-limit and 136/135 and 256/255 in the 17-limit.
104 is also notable as a no-fives system; on 2.3.7.11.13, it tempers out 352/351, 364/363, 896/891, 2197/2187, 16807/16731, 20449/20412, 21632/21609, 26411/26364 and 10648/10647. It is the optimal patent val for the 17&87 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament tempering out 352/351, 364/363 and 2197/2187, which has a 13/9 generator, three of which give a 3.
Rank two temperaments
In patent val
| Periods per octave |
Generator | Cents | Associated ratio | Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 33\104 | 380.769 | 5/4 | Magic / necromancy / divination |
| 51\104 | 588.462 | 7/5 | Untriton | |
| 4 | 9\104 | 103.846 | 18/17 | Undim |
In 104c val
| Periods per octave |
Generator (reduced) |
Cents (reduced) |
Associated ratio (reduced) |
Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 21\104 | 242.308 | 147/128 | Septiquarter |
| 27\104 | 311.538 | 6/5 | Oolong | |
| 47\104 | 542.308 | 15/11 | Casablanca / marrakesh | |
| 2 | 43\104 | 496.154 | 4/3 | Diaschismic |
| 8 | 50\104 (2\104) |
576.923 (23.077) |
121/84 (78/77) |
Octowerck (7- or 11-limit) |
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate Ratios | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| of 2.3.7.11.13.17.19.25 Subgroup |
Additional Ratios of 5 Tending Sharp (104c Val) |
Additional Ratios of 5 Tending Flat (Patent Val) | ||
| 0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | 126/125 | 225/224, 100/99 |
| 1 | 11.538 | 225/224, 100/99 | ||
| 2 | 23.077 | 64/63 | 81/80, 225/224 | 50/49 |
| 3 | 34.615 | 49/48, 50/49 | 81/80, 126/125 | |
| 4 | 46.154 | 36/35, 50/49 | ||
| 5 | 57.692 | 28/27, 33/32 | 25/24, 36/35 | |
| 6 | 69.231 | 25/24 | ||
| 7 | 80.769 | 22/21 | 25/24, 21/20 | 20/19 |
| 8 | 92.308 | 19/18 | ||
| 9 | 103.846 | 17/16, 18/17 | ||
| 10 | 115.385 | 16/15, 15/14 | ||
| 11 | 126.923 | 14/13 | 15/14 | |
| 12 | 138.462 | 13/12 | ||
| 13 | 150.000 | 12/11 | ||
| 14 | 161.538 | 11/10 | ||
| 15 | 173.077 | 21/19 | 10/9, 11/10 | |
| 16 | 184.615 | 10/9 | ||
| 17 | 196.154 | 28/25, 19/17 | ||
| 18 | 207.692 | 9/8 | 17/15 | |
| 19 | 219.231 | 25/22 | 17/15 | |
| 20 | 230.769 | 8/7 | ||
| 21 | 242.308 | 15/13 | ||
| 22 | 253.846 | 22/19 | 15/13 | |
| 23 | 265.385 | 7/6 | ||
| 24 | 276.923 | 75/64 | 20/17 | |
| 25 | 288.462 | 32/27, 13/11 | 20/17 | |
| 26 | 300.000 | 25/21, 19/16 | ||
| 27 | 311.538 | 6/5 | ||
| 28 | 323.077 | 6/5 | ||
| 29 | 334.615 | 17/14 | ||
| 30 | 346.154 | 11/9, 39/32 | ||
| 31 | 357.692 | 27/22, 16/13 | ||
| 32 | 369.231 | 26/21, 21/17 | ||
| 33 | 380.769 | 5/4 | ||
| 34 | 392.308 | 5/4 | ||
| 35 | 403.846 | 63/50, 24/19 | 19/15 | |
| 36 | 415.385 | 81/64, 14/11 | ||
| 37 | 426.923 | 32/25 | ||
| 38 | 438.462 | 9/7 | ||
| 39 | 450.000 | 22/17 | 13/10 | |
| 40 | 461.538 | 17/13 | 13/10 | |
| 41 | 473.077 | 21/16 | ||
| 42 | 484.615 | |||
| 43 | 496.154 | 4/3 | ||
| 44 | 507.692 | |||
| 45 | 519.231 | 27/20 | ||
| 46 | 530.769 | 19/14 | 27/20, 15/11 | |
| 47 | 542.308 | 26/19 | 15/11 | |
| 48 | 553.846 | 11/8 | ||
| 49 | 565.385 | 18/13 | ||
| 50 | 576.923 | 7/5 | ||
| 51 | 588.462 | 45/32, 7/5 | ||
| 52 | 600.000 | 17/12, 24/17 | 45/32, 64/45 | |
| … | … | … | … | … |
Since 104edo has a step of 11.5385 cents, it also allows one to use its MOS scales as circulating temperaments. As 8*13edo, it is the first edo where two smaller edos it allows one to use as circulating temperaments are Fibonacci EDOs.
| Tones | Pattern | L:s |
|---|---|---|
| 5 | 4L 1s | 21:20 |
| 6 | 2L 4s | 18:17 |
| 7 | 6L 1s | 15:14 |
| 8 | 8edo | equal |
| 9 | 5L 4s | 12:11 |
| 10 | 4L 6s | 11:10 |
| 11 | 5L 6s | 10:9 |
| 12 | 8L 4s | 9:8 |
| 13 | 13edo | equal |
| 14 | 4L 10s | 8:7 |
| 15 | 14L 1s | 7:6 |
| 16 | 8L 8s | |
| 17 | 2L 15s | |
| 18 | 12L 6s | 6:5 |
| 19 | 9L 10s | |
| 20 | 4L 16s | |
| 21 | 20L 1s | 5:4 |
| 22 | 16L 6s | |
| 23 | 12L 11s | |
| 24 | 8L 16s | |
| 25 | 4L 21s | |
| 26 | 26edo | equal |
| 27 | 23L 4s | 4:3 |
| 28 | 20L 8s | |
| 29 | 17L 12s | |
| 30 | 14L 16s | |
| 31 | 11L 20s | |
| 32 | 8L 24s | |
| 33 | 5L 28s | |
| 34 | 2L 32s | |
| 35 | 34L 1s | 3:2 |
| 36 | 32L 4s | |
| 37 | 30L 7s | |
| 38 | 28L 10s | |
| 39 | 26L 13s | |
| 40 | 24L 16s | |
| 41 | 22L 19s | |
| 42 | 20L 22s | |
| 43 | 18L 25s | |
| 44 | 16L 28s | |
| 45 | 14L 31s | |
| 46 | 12L 34s | |
| 47 | 10L 37s | |
| 48 | 8L 40s | |
| 49 | 6L 43s | |
| 50 | 4L 46s | |
| 51 | 2L 46s | |
| 52 | 52edo | equal |
| 53 | 51L 2s | 2:1 |
| 54 | 50L 4s | |
| 55 | 49L 6s | |
| 56 | 48L 8s | |
| 57 | 47L 10s | |
| 58 | 46L 12s | |
| 59 | 45L 14s | |
| 60 | 44L 16s | |
| 61 | 43L 18s | |
| 62 | 42L 20s | |
| 63 | 41L 22s | |
| 64 | 40L 24s | |
| 65 | 39L 26s | |
| 66 | 38L 28s | |
| 67 | 37L 30s | |
| 68 | 36L 32s | |
| 69 | 35L 34s | |
| 70 | 34L 36s | |
| 71 | 33L 38s | |
| 72 | 32L 40s | |
| 73 | 31L 42s | |
| 74 | 30L 44s | |
| 75 | 29L 46s | |
| 76 | 28L 48s | |
| 77 | 27L 50s | |
| 78 | 26L 52s | |
| 79 | 25L 54s | |
| 80 | 24L 56s | |
| 81 | 23L 58s | |
| 82 | 22L 60s | |
| 83 | 21L 62s |