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The [[superparticular]] interval '''28/27''', '''septimal third-tone''' or '''small septimal chroma''' has the seventh triangular number as a numerator and is the difference between [[15/14]] and [[10/9]], [[9/8]] and [[7/6]], [[9/7]] and [[4/3]], [[3/2]] and [[14/9]], [[12/7]] and [[16/9]], and [[9/5]] and [[28/15]].  
The [[superparticular]] interval '''28/27''', '''septimal third-tone''' has the seventh triangular number as a numerator and is the difference between [[15/14]] and [[10/9]], [[9/8]] and [[7/6]], [[9/7]] and [[4/3]], [[3/2]] and [[14/9]], [[12/7]] and [[16/9]], and [[9/5]] and [[28/15]].  


Although called a ''chroma'' for its proximity (and conflation in systems like [[septimal meantone]]) with the classic chroma [[25/24]], 28/27 is a ''diatonic semitone'' in both [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]] because it is [[64/63]] smaller than the Pythagorean minor second [[256/243]]. Hence, it may be described as the '''septimal minor second''' or '''subminor second''' if treated as an interval in its own right. This is analogous to the septimal major second [[8/7]], which has the same relationship with [[9/8]], and such classification suggests the function of a strong leading tone added to the traditional harmony.  
It is very accurately approximated by [[19edo]] (1\19), and hence the [[enneadecal]] temperament.  


It is very accurately approximated by [[19edo]] (1\19), and hence the [[enneadecal]] temperament.  
== Terminology ==
28/27 is traditionally called the '''small septimal chroma''', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems like [[septimal meantone]]) with the classic chroma, [[25/24]]. However, it is a ''diatonic semitone'' in just intonation notation systems such as [[Sagittal notation]], [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], and [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the [[256/243|Pythagorean minor second (256/243)]] altered by the [[64/63|septimal comma (64/63)]]. Hence, it may be described as the '''septimal minor second''' or '''subminor second''' if treated as an interval in its own right. This is analogous to the septimal major second [[8/7]], which has the same relationship with [[9/8]], and such classification suggests the function of a strong leading tone added to the traditional harmony. On the other side of things, it may be called the '''trienstonic comma''' if treated as a [[comma]] to be tempered out.  


On the other side of things, it may be called the '''trienstonic comma''' if treated as a [[comma]] to be tempered out, and in fact the [[trienstonic clan]] does exactly that.  
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out 28/27 leads to the [[trienstonic clan]] of temperaments.  


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[27/14]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[27/14]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Trienstonic clan]], where it is tempered out
* [[Trienstonic clan]], where it is tempered out
* [[Wikipedia: Septimal third tone]]
* [[Wikipedia: Septimal third tone]]

Revision as of 16:10, 10 April 2021

Interval information
Ratio 28/27
Factorization 22 × 3-3 × 7
Monzo [2 -3 0 1
Size in cents 62.9609 ¢
Names septimal third-tone,
small septimal chroma,
subminor second,
septimal minor second,
trienstonic comma
Color name z2, zo 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}^{7} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.56224
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 9.61471
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 20

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The superparticular interval 28/27, septimal third-tone has the seventh triangular number as a numerator and is the difference between 15/14 and 10/9, 9/8 and 7/6, 9/7 and 4/3, 3/2 and 14/9, 12/7 and 16/9, and 9/5 and 28/15.

It is very accurately approximated by 19edo (1\19), and hence the enneadecal temperament.

Terminology

28/27 is traditionally called the small septimal chroma, perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems like septimal meantone) with the classic chroma, 25/24. However, it is a diatonic semitone in just intonation notation systems such as Sagittal notation, Helmholtz-Ellis notation, and Functional Just System, viewed as the Pythagorean minor second (256/243) altered by the septimal comma (64/63). Hence, it may be described as the septimal minor second or subminor second if treated as an interval in its own right. This is analogous to the septimal major second 8/7, which has the same relationship with 9/8, and such classification suggests the function of a strong leading tone added to the traditional harmony. On the other side of things, it may be called the trienstonic comma if treated as a comma to be tempered out.

Temperaments

Tempering out 28/27 leads to the trienstonic clan of temperaments.

See also