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: I don't think it's our place as wiki editors to pass judgement on what an edo can do. Our job is just to report the facts. But any rating or metric will have some arbitrariness. We have the absolute and relative errors of each prime right there at the top of the edo's page. This lets people make their own decisions. Not to say that what you're doing isn't a worthwhile endeavor. I just don't think it belongs on the edo pages. Perhaps it could be a separate page on the xenwiki called "Godtone's analysis of EDO subgroups" or some such, that the main EDO page links to. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 07:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
: I don't think it's our place as wiki editors to pass judgement on what an edo can do. Our job is just to report the facts. But any rating or metric will have some arbitrariness. We have the absolute and relative errors of each prime right there at the top of the edo's page. This lets people make their own decisions. Not to say that what you're doing isn't a worthwhile endeavor. I just don't think it belongs on the edo pages. Perhaps it could be a separate page on the xenwiki called "Godtone's analysis of EDO subgroups" or some such, that the main EDO page links to. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 07:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


:: That's a fair criticism of trying to box EDOs into subgroups, there's too much subjectivity involved. I might change this proposal to "Reduce over-2 and prime-limit bias". [[User:IlL|Inthar]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 08:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
:: That's a fair criticism of trying to box EDOs into subgroups, there's too much subjectivity involved. I might change my proposal to "Reduce over-2 and prime-limit bias". [[User:IlL|Inthar]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 08:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 
== Reduce over-2 and prime-limit bias ==
== Reduce over-2 and prime-limit bias ==
I still think we can stand to reduce bias in the way that objective information is presented. The problem with just having a table of prime harmonics is that it only focuses on intervals of the form ''p''/2, and the approximations of many other intervals (which are important for subgroup temperaments) aren't immediately visible and cannot always be obtained from the approximations for primes. The reason that Godtone and I originally proposed this is not to go full primodal, but to reduce the bias towards edos and temperaments that approximate /2 prime harmonics well and be more fair towards subgroup temperaments such as:
I still think we can stand to reduce bias in the way that objective information is presented. The problem with just having a table of prime harmonics is that it only focuses on intervals of the form ''p''/2, and the approximations of many other intervals (which are important for subgroup temperaments) aren't immediately visible and cannot always be obtained from the approximations for primes. The reason that Godtone and I originally proposed this is not to go full primodal, but to reduce the bias towards edos and temperaments that approximate /2 prime harmonics well and be more fair towards subgroup temperaments such as:
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