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::::::::: Oh yes, it's a valid point. As to the "large EDOs", I was about to point out, even with that "locally conservative" to the fingering feature, too large EDO makes the system not very manageable; here is how it looks: say, diatonic fingering patterns are preserved, but their locations in different octaves on left and right become more and more distant. Apparently, the same physical space can take less and less of the tonal range. That's why I was about to ask: how can you practically deal even with 53-EDO, not only 159-EDO? Maybe you have some electronic method of entering data without actually playing on any instrument? | ::::::::: Oh yes, it's a valid point. As to the "large EDOs", I was about to point out, even with that "locally conservative" to the fingering feature, too large EDO makes the system not very manageable; here is how it looks: say, diatonic fingering patterns are preserved, but their locations in different octaves on left and right become more and more distant. Apparently, the same physical space can take less and less of the tonal range. That's why I was about to ask: how can you practically deal even with 53-EDO, not only 159-EDO? Maybe you have some electronic method of entering data without actually playing on any instrument? | ||
:::::::::: For the most part, I myself do indeed work with computers and synthesizers to make the sounds I'm after. As to potential real instruments I can think of for actually working with 53edo and 159edo, I'm pretty sure that trombones, violins, and similarly designed instruments are all capable of dealing in something approximating 53edo with a few technique adjustments, so perhaps you could look into instruments like those. Yes, you'd need a series of register keys for adjusting the tuning of individual strings- especially when dealing with 159edo- but still, perhaps there's a solution on this front. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::::: Nice reference material on diatonic scales! Interestingly how EDO simplify things: for any 7-element diatonic system rendered as any EDO, it would be enough to describe only one mode, and then say: all other modes are derived by starting from the next element and then cycling through the remaining 6 sequential elements, and then shift by one until you get all 7 modern "natural" diatonic modes. It's remarkable that many musicians don't capture this simple idea from a school where they are taught each natural mode separately. | ::::::: Nice reference material on diatonic scales! Interestingly how EDO simplify things: for any 7-element diatonic system rendered as any EDO, it would be enough to describe only one mode, and then say: all other modes are derived by starting from the next element and then cycling through the remaining 6 sequential elements, and then shift by one until you get all 7 modern "natural" diatonic modes. It's remarkable that many musicians don't capture this simple idea from a school where they are taught each natural mode separately. | ||
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:::::::::::::::::::::: The symbols may be contained in some fonts, but as far as I found out not all are supported by Unicode. If you have new information about this, please let me know! --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:40, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | :::::::::::::::::::::: The symbols may be contained in some fonts, but as far as I found out not all are supported by Unicode. If you have new information about this, please let me know! --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:40, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::::::::::::: Indeed. Safe to say all of us here on the Xenharmonic Wiki need to know about these kinds of problems. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::: For the record, if you're interested in advancing your research on Just Intonation, you might want to check out what I'm doing for [[Alpharabian tuning]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC) | :::::: For the record, if you're interested in advancing your research on Just Intonation, you might want to check out what I'm doing for [[Alpharabian tuning]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC) | ||
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Have you had a chance to listen to "Folly of a Drunk" yet? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 06:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | Have you had a chance to listen to "Folly of a Drunk" yet? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 06:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | ||
:Yes! Very interesting! | |||
:: I'm glad you think so! --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Aura's Diatonic Scales == | == Aura's Diatonic Scales == | ||
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Okay, but, as I say, to feel how everything works functionally, I really need to visualize and play using these scales, and I realized it could be just about a couple of working days to re-work it into the playing instrument, based on my existing platform. | Okay, but, as I say, to feel how everything works functionally, I really need to visualize and play using these scales, and I realized it could be just about a couple of working days to re-work it into the playing instrument, based on my existing platform. | ||
:That's good to know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
So, let's say your advice to pay attention to your work was convincing enough. For a while, I'll set aside part of my research as your scales could be a better starting point for a real instrument, to say the least. | So, let's say your advice to pay attention to your work was convincing enough. For a while, I'll set aside part of my research as your scales could be a better starting point for a real instrument, to say the least. | ||
: What do you mean here? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Javascript == | == Javascript == | ||