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::::::::: Thanks! I decided to move at least my part of the discussion to your page as it doesn’t concern Xenwolf. [[User talk:Aura#Harmony in Folly of a Drunk|Here.]] --[[User:Arseniiv|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv|talk]]) 14:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work. One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation. This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4. On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast. Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between ~~4/3~~ and ~~3/2~~. The fact that this works musically is attested to by the number of people who actually find Folly of a Drunk catchy and actually enjoy the strange, unexpected modulation. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work. One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation. This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4. On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast. Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between 525 cents and 675 cents. The fact that this works musically is attested to by the number of people who actually find Folly of a Drunk catchy and actually enjoy the strange, unexpected modulation. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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	::::::::: Thanks! I decided to move at least my part of the discussion to your page as it doesn’t concern Xenwolf. [[User talk:Aura#Harmony in Folly of a Drunk\|Here.]] --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 14:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)		::::::::: Thanks! I decided to move at least my part of the discussion to your page as it doesn’t concern Xenwolf. [[User talk:Aura#Harmony in Folly of a Drunk\|Here.]] --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 14:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

	:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work. One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation. This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4. On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast. Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between ~~4/3~~ and ~~3/2~~. The fact that this works musically is attested to by the number of people who actually find Folly of a Drunk catchy and actually enjoy the strange, unexpected modulation. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)		:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work. One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation. This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4. On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast. Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between 525 cents and 675 cents. The fact that this works musically is attested to by the number of people who actually find Folly of a Drunk catchy and actually enjoy the strange, unexpected modulation. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)