Aura (talk | contribs)
No edit summary
Aura (talk | contribs)
No edit summary
Line 452: Line 452:
::::::::: Thanks! I decided to move at least my part of the discussion to your page as it doesn’t concern Xenwolf. [[User talk:Aura#Harmony in Folly of a Drunk|Here.]] --[[User:Arseniiv|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv|talk]]) 14:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
::::::::: Thanks! I decided to move at least my part of the discussion to your page as it doesn’t concern Xenwolf. [[User talk:Aura#Harmony in Folly of a Drunk|Here.]] --[[User:Arseniiv|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv|talk]]) 14:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work.  One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation.  This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4.  On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast.  Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between 4/3 and 3/2.
:::: Xenwolf, I think I can explain the logic of some of the weirder chord progressions in the modulation as well as why they work.  One thing I seem to notice is that root motion by 3/2 and 4/3 works musically because of a strong harmonic affiliation.  This same mechanism is at play for root motion by 5/4, 8/5, 8/7 and 7/4.  On the other hand, root motion by roughly 600 cents also works musically, but by a different mechanism- that of oppositional contrast.  Root motion by 11/8 and 16/11 essentially brings both mechanisms into play at once- harmonic affiliation because 11/8 and 16/11 are the 11th harmonic and 11th subharmonic respectively, and oppositional contrast because these pitches are located between 4/3 and 3/2. The fact that this works musically is attested to by the number of people who actually find Folly of a Drunk catchy and actually enjoy the strange, unexpected modulation. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)