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:::::::: Have you ever been in a leadership role with a band or orchestra, and if so, did they use anything other than the ISO 16 or ASA reference pitch standard? --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 13:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

::::::::: > But neither Eb nor E are the same as D, right?

::::::::: > Choosing D because it's close to Eb or E

::::::::: I think I said "I never said MIDI keyboard is of any significance in choosing the reference pitch in the first place". Don't know why you keep mentioning all the Eb and E stuff as if my advocacy for D had anything to do with that.

::::::::: > If D is significant because of it's position relative to A

::::::::: > but if you are basing your argument that D is significant because of it's position relative to A

::::::::: Never did I base my argument that D is significant for its position relative to A, either. Look, D being relative to A is equally essential as A being relative to D. It is the fact that D is central in both notating and tuning that makes D special. The centrality is relative to other notes, but to say A is special whenever comparing D with A is a pretense. I decide to put it more brutally this time. Look at all the letters: ABCDEFG. Look also at the circle of fifths, by which the diatonic scale is generated: FCGDAEB. Now, which is special? That said, there is one unbiased diatonic scale too, called Dorian.

::::::::: > Trying to shift things to a middle C standard is too closely tied to piano

::::::::: > Choosing middle C because of its significance on the piano

::::::::: C is not inherently significant on the piano.

::::::::: > Have you ever been in a leadership role with a band or orchestra

::::::::: No. I'm all on my own. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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 :::::::: Have you ever been in a leadership role with a band or orchestra, and if so, did they use anything other than the ISO 16 or ASA reference pitch standard?  --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 13:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
+::::::::: > But neither Eb nor E are the same as D, right?
+::::::::: > Choosing D because it's close to Eb or E
+::::::::: I think I said "I never said MIDI keyboard is of any significance in choosing the reference pitch in the first place". Don't know why you keep mentioning all the Eb and E stuff as if my advocacy for D had anything to do with that.
+::::::::: > If D is significant because of it's position relative to A
+::::::::: > but if you are basing your argument that D is significant because of it's position relative to A
+::::::::: Never did I base my argument that D is significant for its position relative to A, either. Look, D being relative to A is equally essential as A being relative to D. It is the fact that D is central in both notating and tuning that makes D special. The centrality is relative to other notes, but to say A is special whenever comparing D with A is a pretense. I decide to put it more brutally this time. Look at all the letters: ABCDEFG. Look also at the circle of fifths, by which the diatonic scale is generated: FCGDAEB. Now, which is special? That said, there is one unbiased diatonic scale too, called Dorian.
+::::::::: > Trying to shift things to a middle C standard is too closely tied to piano
+::::::::: > Choosing middle C because of its significance on the piano
+::::::::: C is not inherently significant on the piano.
+::::::::: > Have you ever been in a leadership role with a band or orchestra
+::::::::: No. I'm all on my own. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)