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= Weak extensions = | = Weak extensions = | ||
== Semisept == | == Semisept == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Semisept]].'' | ||
The | The generator of semisept is half a tempered septimal major sixth (12/7), hence the name. Three such generator steps minus an octave give the hemithird, and six give the classical major third. It can be described as the 31 & 80 temperament, and as one may expect, [[111edo]] makes for a great tuning. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 1728/1715, 3136/3125 | [[Comma list]]: 1728/1715, 3136/3125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 0 -3 | 0 17 6 15 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75 | |||
: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.2968{{c}}, ~98/75 = 464.5722{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.703 -0.712 +1.119 +1.867 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~98/75 = 464.8120{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.150 +2.559 +3.355 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 80, 111, 364cdd, 475ccddd }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.28 | |||
[[Badness]]: | |||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 1331/1323 | Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 1331/1323 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 | 0 17 6 15 27 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3073{{c}}, ~72/55 = 464.6063{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~72/55 = 464.8423{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 80, 111 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.743 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 540/539, 1375/1372 | Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 540/539, 1375/1372 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 13 | 0 17 6 15 27 -24 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3145{{c}}, ~72/55 = 464.6080{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~72/55 = 464.8636{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 80, 111 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.04 | ||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
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Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 351/350, 640/637, 715/714 | Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 351/350, 640/637, 715/714 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 13 13 | 0 17 6 15 27 -24 -23 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3067{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.6061{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.8699{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 80, 111 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.01 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
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Comma list: 176/175, 286/285, 351/350, 476/475, 540/539, 1331/1323 | Comma list: 176/175, 286/285, 351/350, 476/475, 540/539, 1331/1323 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 13 13 12 | 0 17 6 15 27 -24 -23 -20 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2346{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.5878{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.8816{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 80, 111 }} | ||
Badness: 0. | Badness (Sintel): 0.992 | ||
===== 23-limit ===== | ===== 23-limit ===== | ||
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Comma list: 176/175, 253/252, 286/285, 345/343, 351/350, 391/390, 460/459 | Comma list: 176/175, 253/252, 286/285, 345/343, 351/350, 391/390, 460/459 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 13 13 12 -4 | 0 17 6 15 27 -24 -23 -20 22 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3227{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.6320{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~17/13 = 464.8912{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 80, 111, 191cdh }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.07 | ||
==== Semishly ==== | ==== Semishly ==== | ||
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Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 196/195, 275/273 | Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 196/195, 275/273 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 0 -3 -7 1 | 0 17 6 15 27 7 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1198.3103{{c}}, ~13/10 = 464.3248{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/10 = 464.9110{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 49f, 80f }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.17 | ||
== Emka == | == Emka == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Emka]].'' | ||
Emka tempers out {{monzo| -50 -8 27 }} in the 5-limit. This temperament can be described as 37 & | Emka tempers out {{monzo| -50 -8 27 }} in the 5-limit. This temperament can be described as the 37 & 50 temperament, which tempers out the hemimean comma and 84035/82944 (quinzo-ayo). Alternative extension [[Horwell temperaments #Emkay|emkay]] (87 & 224) tempers out the same 5-limit comma as the emka, but with the horwell (65625/65536) rather than the hemimean tempered out. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 3136/3125, 84035/82944 | [[Comma list]]: 3136/3125, 84035/82944 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -13 -2 -8 | 0 27 8 20 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~35/24 | |||
: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.4701{{c}}, ~35/24 = 648.4717{{c}} | |||
[[ | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.470 +0.669 +0.520 -3.153 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/24 = 648.2307{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.274 -0.468 -4.212 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 37, 50, 87, 137d, 224d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 37, 50, 87, 137d, 224d }} | ||
[[Badness]]: | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.65 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Comma list: 385/384, 2401/2376, 3136/3125 | Comma list: 385/384, 2401/2376, 3136/3125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -13 -2 -8 4 | 0 27 8 20 -1 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2552{{c}}, ~16/11 = 648.3727{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/11 = 648.2399{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 37, 50, 87 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.81 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Comma list: 196/195, 364/363, 385/384, 625/624 | Comma list: 196/195, 364/363, 385/384, 625/624 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -13 -2 -8 4 1 | 0 27 8 20 -1 5 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1506{{c}}, ~16/11 = 648.3230{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/11 = 648.2442{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 37, 50, 87, 224d, 311d, 398d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 37, 50, 87, 224d, 311d, 398d }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.23 | ||
== Decipentic == | == Decipentic == | ||
The generator for | Decipentic may be described as the 43 & 56 temperament. The minimal generator for this temperament is the 10th root of the [[5/1|5th harmonic]], 5<sup>1/10</sup>, tuned between [[75/64]] and [[20/17]] (close to [[27/23]]). Aside from the hemimean comma, this temperament tempers out the [[bronzisma]], 2097152/2083725. [[99edo]] is a good tuning for decipentic, with generator 23\99, and [[mos scale]]s of 9, 13, 17, 30, 43 or 56 notes are available. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 3136/3125, 2097152/2083725 | [[Comma list]]: 3136/3125, 2097152/2083725 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -13 10 22 | 0 19 -10 -25 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~128/75 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5804{{c}}, ~128/75 = 920.8777{{c}} (~75/64 = 278.7027{{c}}) | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.420 +0.175 +0.714 +0.001 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/75 = 921.2002{{c}} (~75/64 = 278.7998{{c}}) | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.849 +1.684 +1.169 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 43, 56, 99, 538cd, 637cd, …, 1033bccdd }} | ||
[[Badness]]: | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.21 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 6 0 -3 3 | 0 -19 10 25 2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 6 0 -3 3 | 0 -19 10 25 2 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3002{{c}}, ~128/75 = 920.6639{{c}} (~75/64 = 278.6364{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~128/75 = 921.2019{{c}} (~75/64 = 278.7981{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 43, 56, 99e }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 2.03 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Comma list: 169/168, 441/440, 832/825, 975/968 | Comma list: 169/168, 441/440, 832/825, 975/968 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 6 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -13 10 22 5 6 | 0 19 -10 -25 -2 -3 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5986{{c}}, ~22/13 = 920.8900{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.7085{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/13 = 921.1988{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.7981{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 56, 99e }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.97 | ||
==== 17-limit ==== | ==== 17-limit ==== | ||
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Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 256/255, 273/272, 375/374 | Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 256/255, 273/272, 375/374 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 6 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -13 10 22 5 6 11 | 0 19 -10 -25 -2 -3 -9 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5089{{c}}, ~17/10 = 920.8252{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.6837{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~17/10 = 921.2034{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.7966{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 56, 99e }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.59 | ||
==== 19-limit ==== | ==== 19-limit ==== | ||
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Comma list: 169/168, 210/209, 221/220, 256/255, 273/272, 286/285 | Comma list: 169/168, 210/209, 221/220, 256/255, 273/272, 286/285 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 6 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -13 10 22 5 6 11 15 | 0 19 -10 -25 -2 -3 -9 -14 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4107{{c}}, ~17/10 = 920.7575{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.6532{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~17/10 = 921.2020{{c}} (~13/11 = 278.7980{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 56, 99e }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.45 | ||
=== Quasijerome === | === Quasijerome === | ||
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Comma list: 3136/3125, 15488/15435, 16384/16335 | Comma list: 3136/3125, 15488/15435, 16384/16335 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -32 20 47 45 | 0 38 -20 -50 -47 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~825/448 | |||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6276{{c}}, ~825/448 = 1060.2861{{c}} (~896/825 = 139.3595{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~825/448 = 1060.5982{{c}} (~896/825 = 139.4016{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 112, 155, 198, 439cd, 637cd }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 3.07 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 3136/3125, 15488/15435 | Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 3136/3125, 15488/15435 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -32 20 47 45 -29 | 0 38 -20 -50 -47 37 }} | ||
Optimal | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6184{{c}}, ~24/13 = 1060.2595{{c}} (~13/12 = 139.3589{{c}}) | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~24/13 = 1060.5971{{c}} (~13/12 = 139.4029{{c}}) | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 155, 198, 439cdf, 637cdf }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.83 | ||
== Sengagen == | == Sengagen == | ||
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== Mowglic == | == Mowglic == | ||
The mowglic temperament (19 & 161) is an extension of the [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Mowgli|mowgli | The mowglic temperament (19 & 161) is an extension of the [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Mowgli|mowgli]] temperament which tempers out the hemimean comma and the secanticornisma (177147/175000, laruquingu) in the 7-limit. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Tremka == | == Tremka == | ||
The name ''tremka'' was initially used for the [[No-sevens subgroup temperaments|no-sevens version]] of 50 & | The name ''tremka'' was initially used for the [[No-sevens subgroup temperaments|no-sevens version]] of 50 & 111 (especially in the 2.3.5.11.13 subgroup), but extending to full 13-limit or higher prime limit does no significant tuning damage, so for that we keep the 2.3.5.11.13 label tremka. | ||
=== 7-limit === | === 7-limit === | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Undetrita (5-limit)]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Undetrita (5-limit)]].'' | ||
The undetrita temperament (111 & | The undetrita temperament (111 & 118) tempers out the hemimean comma (3136/3125) and [[scheme comma]] (14348907/14336000) in the 7-limit; 3025/3024, 3388/3375, and 8019/8000 in the 11-limit. This temperament is related to [[11edt]], and the name ''undetrita'' is a play on the words ''undecimus'' (Latin for "eleventh") and ''[[tritave]]'' (3rd harmonic). It is also related to the [[Subgroup temperaments #No-sevens subgroup|twentcufo temperament]], which is no-sevens version of 111 & 118. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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= Subgroup extensions = | = Subgroup extensions = | ||
== Undecimal didacus == | == Undecimal didacus == | ||
In the no-3's [[11-limit]], there is a natural extension with prime 11 by equating [[25/16]] (which is already tuned sharp anyways) with [[11/7]] by tempering out [[176/175]], which is the same route that [[undecimal meantone]] uses, as this is essentially a no-3's restriction of undecimal meantone in the 11-limit, except that undecimal meantone finds ~[[28/25]] at 2 generators (as a flat ~[[9/8]]) while here it is the generator. This is equivalent to finding [[11/4]] as ([[7/5]])<sup>3</sup>. In the no-3's 19-limit extension "mediantone", this whole tone generator serves as the two simplest [[mediant]]s of [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], namely [[19/17]] and [[28/25]], while in undecimal didacus and its extension to the no-3's 13-limit only the latter interpretation is relevant. | In the no-3's [[11-limit]], there is a natural extension with prime 11 by equating [[25/16]] (which is already tuned sharp anyways) with [[11/7]] by tempering out [[176/175]], which is the same route that [[undecimal meantone]] uses, as this is essentially a no-3's restriction of undecimal meantone in the 11-limit, except that undecimal meantone finds ~[[28/25]] at 2 generators (as a flat ~[[9/8]]) while here it is the generator. This is equivalent to finding [[11/4]] as ([[7/5]])<sup>3</sup>. In the no-3's 19-limit extension "mediantone", this whole tone generator serves as the two simplest [[mediant]]s of [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], namely [[19/17]] and [[28/25]], while in undecimal didacus and its extension to the no-3's 13-limit only the latter interpretation is relevant. | ||