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As an [[interval region]], a major third is typically near 400{{c}} in size. A rough tuning range for the major third is about 370 to 440{{c}} according to [[Margo Schulter]]'s theory of interval regions. ''Major third'' in this sense refers both to the ~350–450{{c}} range as a whole, and to a specific subdivision within it (~370–415{{c}}) as opposed to supermajor thirds; major thirds sharp of this are often called | As an [[interval region]], a major third is typically near 400{{c}} in size. A rough tuning range for the major third is about 370 to 440{{c}} according to [[Margo Schulter]]'s theory of interval regions. ''Major third'' in this sense refers both to the ~350–450{{c}} range as a whole, and to a specific subdivision within it (~370–415{{c}}) as opposed to supermajor thirds; major thirds sharp of this are often called supermajor thirds. | ||
This section covers intervals between 360 and 460{{c}}. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call | This section covers intervals between 360 and 460{{c}}. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call major thirds, but this is done so that one can find what they're looking for easily. | ||
=== In | === In mos scales === | ||
Intervals between 360 and 480 cents generate the following [[mos]] | Intervals between 360 and 480 cents generate the following [[mos scale]]s: | ||
These tables start from the last monolarge mos generated by the interval range. | These tables start from the last monolarge mos generated by the interval range. | ||
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== As a diatonic interval category == | == As a diatonic interval category == | ||
{{Infobox | |||
| Title = Diatonic major third | |||
| Header 1 = MOS | Data 1 = [[5L 2s]] | |||
| Header 2 = Other names | Data 2 = Major 2-diastep | |||
| Header 3 = Generator span | Data 3 = +4 generators | |||
| Header 4 = Tuning range | Data 4 = 343–480{{c}} | |||
| Header 5 = Basic tuning | Data 5 = 400{{c}} | |||
| Header 6 = Function on root | Data 6 = Mediant | |||
| Header 7 = Interval regions | Data 7 = [[Neutral third]], major third, ([[naiadic]]) | |||
| Header 8 = Associated just intervals | Data 8 = [[5/4]], [[81/64]] | |||
| Header 9 = Octave complement | Data 9 = [[Minor sixth]] | |||
}} | |||
As a diatonic interval category, a major third is an interval that spans two scale steps in the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with the major (wider) quality. It is generated by stacking 4 fifths [[octave reduction|octave reduced]], and depending on the specific tuning, it ranges from 343 to 480{{cent}} ([[7edo|2\7]] to [[5edo|2\5]]). | |||
The major third can be stacked with a [[ | In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a major third if it is reasonably mapped to two steps of the diatonic scale and four steps of the chromatic scale, or formally 2\7 and [[24edo|8\24]]. The use of 24edo's 8\24 as the mapping criteria here rather than [[12edo]]'s 4\12 better captures the characteristics of many intervals in the [[11-limit|11-]] and [[13-limit]]. | ||
The major third can be stacked with a [[minor third]] to form a perfect fifth, and as such is often involved in chord structures in diatonic harmony. | |||
In [[TAMNAMS]], this interval is called the '''major 2-diastep'''. | In [[TAMNAMS]], this interval is called the '''major 2-diastep'''. | ||
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Being an abstract mos degree, and not a specific interval, the diatonic major third does not have a fixed tuning, but instead has a range of ways it can be tuned, based on the tuning of the generator used in making the scale. This is similar for the diminished fourth. | Being an abstract mos degree, and not a specific interval, the diatonic major third does not have a fixed tuning, but instead has a range of ways it can be tuned, based on the tuning of the generator used in making the scale. This is similar for the diminished fourth. | ||
The tuning range of the diatonic major third ranges from 342.8 to 480{{c}}. The generator for a given tuning in cents, ''n'', for the diatonic major third can be found by {{nowrap|(''n'' + 2400)/4}}. For example, the third 384{{c}} gives us {{nowrap|(384 + 2400)/4 {{=}} 2784/4 {{=}} 696{{c}}}}, corresponding to 50edo. | The tuning range of the diatonic major third ranges from 342.8 to 480{{c}}. The generator for a given tuning in cents, ''n'', for the diatonic major third can be found by {{nowrap| (''n'' + 2400)/4 }}. For example, the third 384{{c}} gives us {{nowrap| (384 + 2400)/4 {{=}} 2784/4 {{=}} 696{{c}} }}, corresponding to 50edo. | ||
The tuning range of the diatonic diminished fourth ranges from 240 to 514{{c}}. The generator for a given tuning in cents, n, for the diminished fourth can be found by (n + 3600)/8. For example, the diminished fourth 384{{c}} gives us (384 + 3600)/8 = 3984/8 = 498{{c}}, corresponding to 200edo. | The tuning range of the diatonic diminished fourth ranges from 240 to 514{{c}}. The generator for a given tuning in cents, n, for the diminished fourth can be found by {{nowrap| (''n'' + 3600)/8 }}. For example, the diminished fourth 384{{c}} gives us {{nowrap| (384 + 3600)/8 {{=}} 3984/8 {{=}} 498{{c}} }}, corresponding to 200edo. | ||
Several example tunings are provided below: | Several example tunings are provided below: | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-1" | {| class="wikitable center-all left-1" | ||
|+Tunings of the major third and diminished fourth | |+Tunings of the major third and diminished fourth | ||
!Tuning | ! Tuning | ||
!Step ratio | ! Step ratio | ||
!Edo | ! Edo | ||
!Major third | ! Major third | ||
!Diminished fourth | ! Diminished fourth | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Equalized | | Equalized | ||
|1:1 | | 1:1 | ||
|7 | | 7 | ||
|343{{c}} | | 343{{c}} | ||
|514{{c}} | | 514{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Supersoft | | Supersoft | ||
|4:3 | | 4:3 | ||
|26 | | 26 | ||
|369{{c}} | | 369{{c}} | ||
|462{{c}} | | 462{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Soft | | Soft | ||
|3:2 | | 3:2 | ||
|19 | | 19 | ||
|379{{c}} | | 379{{c}} | ||
|442{{c}} | | 442{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Semisoft | | Semisoft | ||
|5:3 | | 5:3 | ||
|31 | | 31 | ||
|387{{c}} | | 387{{c}} | ||
|426{{c}} | | 426{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Basic | | Basic | ||
|2:1 | | 2:1 | ||
|12 | | 12 | ||
|400{{c}} | | 400{{c}} | ||
|400{{c}} | | 400{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Semihard | | Semihard | ||
|5:2 | | 5:2 | ||
|29 | | 29 | ||
|414{{c}} | | 414{{c}} | ||
|372{{c}} | | 372{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Hard | | Hard | ||
|3:1 | | 3:1 | ||
|17 | | 17 | ||
|424{{c}} | | 424{{c}} | ||
|353{{c}} | | 353{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Superhard | | Superhard | ||
|4:1 | | 4:1 | ||
|22 | | 22 | ||
|436{{c}} | | 436{{c}} | ||
|327{{c}} | | 327{{c}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Collapsed | | Collapsed | ||
|1:0 | | 1:0 | ||
|5 | | 5 | ||
|480{{c}} | | 480{{c}} | ||
|240{{c}} | | 240{{c}} | ||
|} | |} | ||
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Much [[odd limit|simpler]] major thirds and diminished fourths exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example: | Much [[odd limit|simpler]] major thirds and diminished fourths exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example: | ||
* The 5-limit '''classical major third''' is a ratio of [[5/4]], and is about 386{{c}}. | * The 5-limit '''classical major third''' is a ratio of [[5/4]], and is about 386{{c}}. | ||
* The 7-limit '''(septimal) supermajor third''' is a ratio of [[9/7]], and is almost exactly 435{{c}}. | * The 7-limit '''(septimal) supermajor third''' is a ratio of [[9/7]], and is almost exactly 435{{c}}. | ||